Beatles and Acid Joy to all my sinister brothers and sisters, especially the ones that are feeling a bit down . Nick wrote that the LSD didn't start until after 65 for the Beatles. Pulling out my copy of A Hard Day's Write, an exhaustive book with the story behind every single beatles song I see it repeats the story about the dentist friend spiking their coffee... However, it has an interesting story about how in the august of 65 they rented a house and in the company of Peter Fonda and others dropped acid for the first time, all save Paul that is. Helluva book and I recommend it to any diehard Beatles fan. Norwegian Wood was brilliant wasn't it? And it was written before their trip so Nick's still right. Hmmm, never really saw the Beatles as drug-addled hippies anyways (drug-addled at times yes, hippies...that's a bit of a loaded term). As to the Beach Boys-Beatles discussions the groups had alot of mutual respect for each other, hell Mike Love and the Beatles hung out together when they all went to India with Donovan and others during their experiments with Eastern philosophy. College I'm fairly lucky I think. I was dismayed when I first got to college and realized it wasn't the haven for positive, nice, tolerant people I had dreamed of it as. But I've learned that the sad fact is that we're all human. Even those poor close-minded bastards I have to deal with everyday. At least I'm blessed with a college radio station that plays a bit of B&S. Okay, it plays alot of b.s. too, but on the whole it's a rather nice station where one can hear all sorts of cool stuff instead of blocks of mass marketed *alterna-teen* rock or pop metal. Which I must say I listen to and enjoy a bit of that too, I just want a world where I can hear music as eclectic as my tastes. Indie (whatever that is) and Mainstream(whatever that is). Hippies & Sitars The hippies are taking a bit of a knocking eh? I'll admit some respect for what the hippies accomplished (turning american on it's ear for a start) but I suppose in retrospect if they'd had had their shit together they'd of made a bit more of an impact in history instead of just ending as a bit of a joke. Favorite description of what happened to the movement : "We were gonna change the world, free everyone's mind, and overturn a facist establishment. What happened? We all just kinda got high and forgot" Sitars can be a bit much can't they? I won't say I hate the things, but George really should have left it at home for a few of those songs. Music Judging someone by their music makes about as much sense as judging by their clothes. I'm sure most of the list would hate half of what I consider my favorite bands. However, I see Beth Orton gets mentioned alot on the list. She *is* one of my current favorites, what a talent. Anyone else think K's Choice is brilliant(or did I just ostricize myself there?)? Happy Happy, Joy Joy To all you wonderful sinister people, cheer up boys and girls. Don't let the bastards get you down because that's when they win.Nuts, it's two thirty in the morning and I've been rambling a bit,time to crash. Luck all!-Jim "We're all out there somewhere, waiting to happen"- Jeff Noon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+