Honey wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, John Jackson wrote:
the duke of harringay wrote a load of shite:
for all of you new here, that's my trademark. writing a load of shite. i practise very hard you know.
Ok... (sound of offstage giggling) - let's calm it down a little please. Strong opinions very welcome but gratuitous insults are not.
don't recall making any gratuitous insults, but hey! i can oblige if you insist. as an addition to the thread about manchester and 'incompetence', well i think there's a few more things to be added. firstly to say that actually, i've never been that good about distinguishing between the 'music' and the appeal of the Pop group. i've said this a million times probably so won't say any more except that in the show situation, i take into account lots of factors, like who i meet, where the show is held, what i do before and after. it's an EVENT, it's a part of my life. the actual performance by a Pop group is only one part of that experience. reading a few other people's reviews of saturday, they sound like they had a great time despite the fact that the group sounded, by their own admission, pants. i think that's really important, because there's much more to loving a Pop group than just liking what they sound like. like what i said in my own review: lots of smiling faces and lots of earnest looking young boys (men, whatver). the earnest young men (i'm being general because it usually IS males) miss a lot of the fun potential. i should know, cos i used to worse than most. secondly, um what else did John say: 'Yeah, I paid TWENTY TWO pounds so they can piss about and enjoy themselves and put on a substandard show.' well i don't think they intentionally piss about, it just happens :-) and if you think it sucks, you can leave, feel pissed off and go discover something else that doesn't piss you off. i saw The Smiths play on the queen is dead tour, and they sounded dire, so i walked out. okay, i 'wasted' some money, and i never liked the band much after that, but hell, that was fair enough. i saw Stockholm Monsters support and realised that there were other exciting groups to obsess over. i'd had several years of smiths obsession and saw them play amazing shows on several occasions, so i wasn't too bothered. i just moved on. john also said: 'If they don't please their fans then they won't HAVE fans, just fools like you who defend everything they do, because "they have lives you know" and because they "DON'T do all the things 'normally'".' yikes, it's official then, i'm a fool. if it's of any interest to you, the duchess agrees with you, she 'sees' my point but doesn't 'respect' it! ha ha. i'm an unrespected fool. great start to 1998. but do i care, oh no... i actually don't defend everything they do anyway. i thought that the 'Sinister' songs on sunday night were largely lacking in sparkle and sounded flat. i said this in my review and i told Stuart Murdoch as well. so maybe i am a fool... And do they care about having lots of fans, or do they care more about making recordings that they are proud of? i'm not a member of the band so can't answer it, but if they DO care a whole lot about making (and keeping) lots of fans, maybe they DO need to polish up their live shows. The answer is in their hands.
2. Please remember this is a B&S list - this doesn't mean every message needs to contain a reference to Chris Geddes' underpants,
perhaps we can have a seperate list dedicated to Chris' underwear?
3. I'm not going to let this list descend into squabbles - one of the amazing things about meeting people at the concert was how bloody nice you all were!
ah but paul, you never got to meet me! in fact not many did... probably because i was wandering about being an unrespected fool talking a load of shite.
strong opinions and eccentric arse are strongly encouraged on the list - take your lead from the old-timers.
so now i'm not just an unrespected fool who writes shite, but i'm OLD as well. hey, 1998 is going to be great ;-)
Majority opinions hold sway.
except when they're wrong, i.e. i don't agree with them.
Erm - that's it. Be nice to each other, marry, have babies and have a nice 1998.
be mean and moody, have sordid affairs, avoid children at all costs... then you'll have a great 1998. so that's me fucked then. keep the faith the duke "What do I care what impression I make on people? ItÂ’s because we waste our lives caring about other people that most of us remain morons." (Colin Wilson) -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent@mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------