Hello Sinister Massive, I couldn't help noticing a recent thread regarding women's prediliction toward dating liars, thieves and malcontents...bad boys. Having been the unwitting victim of this time and time again, I would love to be clued in as to what the big deal is. I have my theories, but given that I'm not a woman, they're probably pretty misinformed. My theory is that women want something to mother and mold and scold, rather than some thumb-sucker or all-around nice guy who's just waiting on their every sneeze to brandish a box of tissues. Maybe its also because neglect is such a "manly" thing, that unless a guy repeatedly ignores a girl he doesn't seem "manly." Why do women want it hard? (not like that, you perverts) I always hear my women friends moaning about how they want a guy "who's normal...who's nice...who'll buy us flowers," when what they really want is all of that followed by the phrase "once a year." I have bought women flowers for no reason, sereneded them with love songs, complimented them up and down, missed a kegger to watch "You've Got Mail" etc., only to be left behind for guys who forgot their birthday and would later cheat on them with an ex- or something. It seems like as soon as a woman knows she has a guy, I mean really and truly HAS a guy, then she doesn't want him anymore. Guys are very much like this too, so I guess we have no room to talk. Perhaps people aren't comfortable unless they're uncomfortable, unless there's that every-present feeling that any minute something COULD go wrong (even if it never does). Maybe it ties in with wanting someone independent, someone who could do without you quite easily, thank you very much. I have no clue. I just know all my overly romantic friends are also the ones who are the loneliest and I wish I could understand why. Ferris Bueller once said, "You can't respect someone who kisses your ass...it just doesn't work." Perhaps that says it all. Perfecting the art of imperfection... Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+