seb was in a huff because of casting directors and took it all out on rock'n'roll, which is fine by me any day. We oppose all rock'n'roll, after all. Actually he didn't join in on the choruses of 'no more rock and roll for you', but that can be forgiven due to genevieve's rampant all but virtual fairy snogs. See, i'm jealous now. But hmmm, rock'n'roll, seems to me that Pop is in fact much more complex than what Seb makes out, because really, seems to me that the whole Blues thing in the USA was as a result of a black african meets white american collision. True, the white culture being the dominant one was being attacked by the Blues, and then later by roots black r'n'r, but what really made rock'n'roll fly, what really made Pop come about was the way Country and traditional white Folk music weaved their magical spells into the tapestry. And yes, I'm being neccessarily simple here because i have to do the housework in a minute. You can't say that Pop, or even Rock'n'Roll is traditionally, or 'originally' a Black or a White cultural form, because it's a result of collision and collusion. Besides which, at the point we have reached now, it's completely irrelevent, given that cross-fertilisation can be so transparent and difficult to spot in any obvious way. And thank goodness too. That's what's great about B&S to be honest, they blend so many disparate elements and make music that DOES sound like no-one else on earth. Mayve you youngsters have no idea how seldom that happens, maybe some oldstersz too, but hell, me, i figure i know only too well. I'm currently listening to the Josef K collection on Marina, and this is another case in point: although their inspirations are also clear, they sound like NO-ONE alive or dead. Truly inspirational. Keep the faith, the duke Sorry if this come out twice... it's NOT my fault!!! -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent@lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+