Bapps story about telling some guy that Belle and Sebastian are his favourite band sort of reminded me of a similar scenario a few months ago. I was on a training course to learn Good Words, and the trainer decided to have an ice breaker session by asking us our names and our desert island disc. Sure enough, he went round the group, who were naming Beatles albums and John Lennon albums, and all those classic albums that seem to appear on regular classic shows on VH1, or in the sales in HMV. Then he got to me. It was Tigermilk, by Belle and Sebastian. "Aren't they quite old?" he asked, "From the 70's?". "Er, not really" "Ah right" he said, trying to reassert some credibility of knowing what I was talking about. "But they're quite heavy, aren't they?" he said. It struck me as a fairly odd thing to say about a band called Belle and Sebastian. I mean, sure, if they were called something like "The Murdersome Pagans", or "Suicidal Warriors" or something, then yeah, it'd be a reasonable assumption, I guess, if you're going on a name. But Belle? thats a girlie name. And Sebastian? Have you ever known any hard nut called Sebastian? They're named after a book, which was turned into a cartoon for christs sakes. Anyway, it made me giggle, and sort of wish he'd just move on and ask someone else their name and favourite album. Sort of reminds me of a posh bloke I once knew, who got nicknamed Alan, as in Alan Partridge, on account of his voice and dress sense. He kept calling Eminem "Eminie", which was vaguely amusing for a while. Sometimes I find it best not to mention B&S to anyone who comes across as being a bit straight laced. Sometimes its best just to shut up and discuss Wife Swap instead, or babies and marriage. Having said that, I'm not very good at the indie conversations either. I can't remember album titles or record tracks, let alone obscure indie pop trivia. Actually, I think the only thing I'm reasonably good at discussing is myself. Stuart "Big Stu" Gardiner said something about scoring points for things you see in the new DVD. That would possibly make an interesting drinking game. It might also end up in alcoholism, a hang over from hell, loss of friends from embarrassing acts, and serious liver damage, but hey, you can't have it all. love idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+