<< I would love to stand up with Ralph Nader and say boo to the business world and, in the end, I probably will. But it will be with righteous tears in my eyes because I think that a vote for Ralph Nader is a vote for George W. Bush >> Nadar has addressed the idea of the Spoiler several times. To Nadar, the Republican and Democratic parties are so similiar at this point that he doesn't really see it making much difference who wins out of Bush and Gore. His issues are in opposition to views shared by "Bore and Gush." The concern about how Gore and Bush will vary on supreme court appointments is an exageration, so says Nadar. If Bush attempts to appoint members to the court that might overturn Roe vs. Wade, it will backfire so drastically, public outcry and mass protest will be heard so loudly, that ultimately it will never happen. I tend to agree with this. The recent debate over stem cell research highlights for us again that the majority of americans view the pro-life movement to be a block of everything from basic rights issues to issues of scientific progress. I think Nadar is saying, look you can elect Gore and the environment will continue to be mistreated at the current and dangerous rate, the global corporations will continue to press their agenda's beyond the control of all forms of regulation, etc; or you can elect Bush and things will be just as bad, probably much worse (today in the NY Times Cheney is saying how all the National Monuments and Parks that Clinton established in the West these past 8 years should be seriously reviewed for the purpose of removing their current protected status). This is the "worse of two evils," notion. What Nadar is saying is, let's send a powerful message from the Left. Nadar knows he can't win. But he does know that every major political movement in america has come from a 3rd Party influence, from the abolition movement to the civil rights movement, the two party system only opens to change when they see their own membership and popularity begin to drain towards a third party idea. This is what Nadar ultimately hopes to achieve; he hopes that by pulling 10-15% of the vote this election, he can pull the collective head from the collective ass of the democratic and republican parties. That issues like campaign finance reform and the environment getting kicked in the teeth by the WTO will stop. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+