Hello, I just wanted to respond to a few points, some beat into the ground already, some untouched until now. First of all, I was away this weekend, and only just now had time to read all my Sinister mail. I was almost immediately appalled by FunkySeb's misrepresentation of SoS. I was one of the so-called "elite few" on SoS, and I think this had more to do with the fact that I very obviously cared about the list when I talked about it with honey than the fact that I was in with the in-crowd. I am going to reaffirm the views of everyone who has posted that was on SoS, and say that he was almost completely wrong about it. He did get a few things right about it. It is, for example, a list. AND I want to again reaffirm the statement that Honey is wonderful, and does a better job running this list than any listmummy on any of the other lists I've been on did running theirs. Even me ;) What struck me as more than a little bit apalling was that FunkySeb's confused picture of SoS was almost word-for-word the one that an employee of Jeepster posted to us. It is somewhat surprising that said employee, despite the fact that (s)he had been on SoS since its inception, managed to totally misconstrue what it actually was. Honey immediately corrected said employee, informing him of the points that all the SoSsers have brought up in response to FunkySeb's post. So I want to know, is Jeepster trying to get rid of Sinister? I don't like to think so, but facts seem to make the possibility of this suggestion a litle more real than I'd like. I'm not sure what I believe at this point in time. I hope that FunkySeb's misconceptions of SoS were borne from either: A) An amazing and odd coincidence OR B) A loose-mouthed Jeepster employee complaining before Honey informed him of his/her failings to understand the facts surrounding SoS. and not an effort by Jeepster to undermine the list's love of Honey. I feel sorry for FunkySeb if he was so misinformed, but not so much so realizing that he left before he could be told what was going on. His loss. And on to the other things that some people brought up. Firstly, although all posts are not commented on an official forum, when we talk to our Sinister friends off-list, inevitably we talk about posts. We all judge every post, just like we judge a great many things. You're all judging this post right now, and there's nothing wrong with that, whether you like it or dislike it. The fact that I was on SoS does not mean my posts are not dissected, discussed, or deplored, although none of these occurred on SoS. Lastly, several people, when commenting on recent events, said something along the lines of "Stop it, B&S are just a band, and this list is just a place to discuss them." I can understand why people do think this, but I wish to inform the people who do that this is not *just* a discussion list about B&S to a great number of people. It may not mean as much to me as it once did, but to some people I am very close to this list is almost as important, if not more important than the band themselves. So if you want to just talk about the band, then fine, but please consider that not everyone feels the same way you do, and no one's forcing you to stay here. So if you don't like the content, please delete the message, complain to some friends offlist, or unsubscribe. Whatever you do, don't whine about how you don't like certain types of posts on the list. If we all did that then all we'd have was a bunch of complaining, then, wouldn't we? Yes, I realize I'm whining ;) Sorry, but I'm sure Honey has enough problems to deal with already, so please excuse my preachiness. /"\_/"\_/"\ Brian Pennington, a.k.a. Mick McMick; Sandcastle Records \ / bp224996@ohiou.edu ICQ#5056758 | | Sandcastle Recs Homepage: http://www.frognet.net/~mick/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+