Duke totally misses my point about the Manchester gigs. I DON'T want B&S to be a polished professional act, I said that in my post. What I do object to is corners being cut on the technical side, either through lack of experience or the foolish belief that 'all-round incompetance' is somehow attractive. Maybe you'd be happy if they recorded the next LP by placing a walkman in the corner of a big room instead of spending a few days in a 'professional' (oh my god!..) studio and using 'professional (here we go again...) equipment with a 'professional' engineer. And then they could release it on cassette only without bothering to master it because they've got lives to lead and they just do things for themselves - fuck the people who funded it by buying the last record. Duke, I think you'll find yourself in a minority here. Sorry mate Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------