I'm slightly confused to find myself actually posting to sinister. I suppose that's what comes of being ill for ages and actually having time to read digests, which rarely happens in my life. hello. i'm jim, i've been on a sinister for a while but obviously not properly. I do dip in and read bits, but volume stops me really managing any more than that. If anyone manages to change British work culture to having three day weekends i'd promise to read every post, and lots more besides. Fact is i am actually only working 3 days a week now, but at college 2, and supposed to be studying evenings (like now), and so have even better excuses for being busy than i used to. I'm not sure quite who out of the older pasty faced vegan geeks are still around, but its good to see so many new people. Being on sinister still feels an important thing, though when i turn up to picnics or B&S gigs or whatever i do have a sense of being a bit of a distant relative, seeing as i don't manage to follow what's going on fundamentally with the list. Having had some top times and met some loverly folks, it still does feel like a good family to be part of, and so i shall carry on randomly-skim-lurking if its alright with you lot. I'm in london UK btw, erm, and since martin robinson always commented on my turning up to sinster gatherings in (favourite) purple trousers, when i needed a temporary email address in a hurry i got this one, and haven't managed to lose it since. There's a number of things i've read recently, but seeing as i don't have much to contribute towards those things, i'll stick to what was the original reason to start this post a week or two back: I'm also slightly confused about the origins of the indie superstar team thing, but as Mr Carsmile ('props' {as i believe is the vernacular of the kidz} to him + all sinister kids who did londonindieusa) has already suggested, my dreamteam(s) have already manifested, and defeated notable indie celeb - teams such as (oh arse the archives don't work at the mo do they). well numerous indie bands were defeated on the hallowed tarmac of camber sands @ pontins over a couple of years, and heck calumn even recruited us the man Murdoch .....{oh, what happy hazy memories they are} well i've been promising for about two years to scan in a polaroid a bizarre young woman who was stalking my ex-flatmate (scary actual truth) took of most of our victorious team from ATPs 2000. I'm still promising. I was going to ask what happened to other photographic evidence of our finest footy hour? ( beyond the crappy that one (made crappy by me wandering off that Carsmile kindly linked)) thinking that can't be the only one taken just after we climbed those long steps to collect our bag of stella from Her Majesty can it? and indeed, a minimal amount of meandering around our beloved archivey piccieplace and i came over all gooey to find http://www.missprint.org/sinister/things/ATPSinisterFC.html. Bless. Us AND stuart Murdoch. Its on my noticeboard already :) I also found these fun accounts recently: (we WERE famous!) http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200005/msg00022.html http://www.rockfeedback.com/tomorrowspartiesintro.htm http://www.playlouder.com/feature/035alltomorrowsparties/1.html So there, that is the dreamteam. done & dusted in my book. Similarly the narrowly defeated stalwarts from ?'99 (http://www.missprint.org/sinister/picnics/SinisterLooperteam1.html So my top geezers are: Rozza Rich Ali 'Pele' Cook Vince 'whereishenowmartin?' Rory http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/Rory.html Calumn (ourpixielikemascotwithourtrophyonhisheadinmypolaroid) Dr.Sean Trousers (sadlyabsentfromthepolaroidforourvictoriousyear)http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/Trousers.html & from our year of so near and yet so far: mymatedamon Mark Casserole http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/MarkC2.html Simonrorysmate USben http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/Benjamin.html honourable mentions to supersub popkins http://www.missprint.org/sinister/picnics/TimFootie.html whose link also brings in cheerleader #3 pa Moore, ably accompanied by carsmile, starry and the like. i suppose this treacherous b'strd may have made it if he didn't have a habit of buggering off to play for the opposition or staying in bed and missing our finest hour. http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/MartinR.html nice bloke (though not sure why he's naked in the photo). & since i distinctly remember talk of a proper goalie when Sinsiterfitba almost existed, i think there's the makings of worldbeaters there. They were really rather exciting footy matches at Camber Sands, right down to when i tried to let the opposition win by rolling the ball out to the their star striker and managing to get in the way of the shot somehow. I suppose i'm allowed to love Scmeichel now he pays for my beloved villa. The shouting thing definitely works for your own confidence. THAT was the bit i was good at :) I'd never won a lot at footy really, ATPs red plastic seaside bucket trophy, proudly adds to memories of the day the city uni library team shocked all comers and won the inaugural millennium trophy. And the london buddhist centre won the inter-buddhist centre 5-a-side competition this year. Hurrah! (i don't think i was supposed to be quite as competitive as i was, ho-hum) Well that's about as good as it gets form me, so i'll go back to another year or two of lurking. --------%snip%----------- well since i typed that i got some very sad news. the band whose name we borrowed (Slot Jockey) to gatecrash and thrash all comers to win the 'celebrity' (ahem) 5-a-side a couple of years back @ All Tomorrows Parties, certainly marking the Sinister List's finest football hour, [bear with me non-footy fans this is about music] were the bearers of said sad news. well for all those that wondered who the hell it was we pretended to be, i once described them in print (when i seemed to have an ability to describe music) as: SLOT JOCKEY "Great songs, great angles, different reasons, appreciation of space and silence" (Organ). The mighty Slot Jockey are described by the NME as "a seething lump of post rock sugar... fireworks every time" and "a see-saw between sulky interludes and brilliantly pissed off sonic crunchings". They see themselves as being "influenced by the New York noise of Pavement and Sonic Youth, and the New York melody of Neil Diamond". With their own refreshingly distinct very British slant - on singles such as their now rare debut 7" 'Sister Root' (Double Plus Records) - Slot Jockey ooze taut, skewed tunefulness and loud/quiet/LOUD dynamism, displaying a startling ability to spew out (barbed) hook laden nuggets of friction noise with apparent ease. Well due to emigration to Australia, what was to be an *album launch*, has very sadly turned in to a final gig, about which i'm pretty gutted. I thought one or two might be interested, in the last ever chance to see them. You have been warned. I'll buy you an onion bhaji if you think they're shite. (hey i'm not rich). 8.15pm (EIGHT BLOODY FIFTEEN (worst slot i've ever sodding known them to have)) monarch/barfly (chalk farm road) this saturday 10th Nov. (leaves time to get to upstairs of garage to see tender trap :-) it'll be a bit of a wake i guess. hopefully not too much of a whimper at that time. I'm gutted that a bunch of top people i only got to know cus i loved the band, are splitting up. maybe i'm naive at expecting bands to get a certain amount of recognition, but bloody hell, they deserved a notch or two more. well its your last chance, you've been warned. (not the other) jim P.S. My aunty's parrot (observed reciting poetry long ago) was telling me of a new dance they are doing in the Tyrol Region, called the Alpine Foxtrot. Sound familiar to anyone? you young whippersnappers you . sorry if i've missed things btw/made any faux pas. content: i quite like belle & sebastian you know. + i like the fact list mummies work so f'in hard for this to exist. ________________________________________________________________________ Sunday 18 November National Demonstration Against the War - London Called by Stop the War Coalition. Assemble 12 noon, Hyde Park. ________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. 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