Sinistereenies, This will be short (for me). I've spent all day glued to my laptop and phone, trying to evade the utterly unfounded blocks AOL are putting on Sinister mail, and my hosting company's over-zealous reaction as they're terrified of AOL blocking them. My powers of negotiation are at an end. I now have evidence that two AOL users are marking Sinister mails, and indeed mails from me, as spam, and AOL take them at their word. It makes the list drop mails to all of you. I may discover who these users are soon. Blame AOL, and blame those who are doing it. To reassure you, I think the list's only dropped one very short mail because of this since I last spoke to you. I don't want there to be any more. Having spent two whole days doing this, with numerous calls to the US, it's clearly not any way to spend a life, so I've mailed then removed all AOL users from the list other than those who replied to an email I sent to them yesterday (thank you). You can resubscribe if you like, but I advise *all* AOL users to move to a new ISP now, or subscribe to Sinister via a webmail site. Those left on AOL will be missing mails probably. You might not even get this. Many lists have had to ban AOL users because of the way AOL operate their spam filters - rather than scanning content, they simply believe their own users who say they got spam. This opens the way to abuse, or mails being marked as spam by AOL users who don't know what they're doing or are just lazy. It's extremely likely I'll have to ban AOL users soon because of this - sorry, but you need to blame AOL not me. I'll be too busy blaming my hosting company for their bullied schoolchild reaction to this. The list will be moving from them soon, if I can get well enough to do it. Please see http://www.missprint.org/sinister/#aol if you want more of the sordid tale. I'll post more there but not bore the list with this if it's just an AOL matter: this list isn't a list about lists, or about AOL, or about computers - I feel guilty enough sending this. Just thought you should know. No stoning of innocent AOL users please. 2:30am. My doctor will kill me. Shh. Sinister, in spite of all this your renaissance is remarkable, and I love you for it. You're like a sleepy dragon waking up after seven years and peeking out of a cave, blowing a snort of smoke and trotting off to eat some peasants who thought you were dead. Continue to munch, please. End of boring mails from a very tired list mum. Please resume blowing up balloons for Saturday and have a lovely time. Honey +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+