Ufff.If the time/quality ratio is still the standard to establish the good value of any message to this list of ours and Mama Miel,the hours of painstaking research which have preceded the next lines hopefully will redeem them from the most severe of courts out there. Following my first encounter with the one and only PF and its/his/her exchange with Ally Cook and others, I dived into the infinite and blue swimming pool of quotes which is the Web to learn better on Lloyd Cole with and without the Commotions, and perhaps with good luck, to puzzle out that enigma involving on Scouser fibs arriving to Spanish shores. Sorry to report that no answer came to bring any conclusions to the dilemma JB/KK-reference mentioned above.But in some page named 'Creative Noise' and edited by Brian B. ,post-grad at the University of Arizona, I found the suggestion of some thought-provoking link between Mr Cole and the very own Belle and Sebastian. Before posting any quote on the subject, fearing the irk of the crew who already had had a go at it,as it included some of the better-read scholars in this parish, I went and made good use of the SEARCH sinister services to check if already had been mentioned.Only some bridge over troubled waters joining Cole's and Lawrence's vocals could be remotely related , so I considered it was worth coming to it. Brian's these (I cannot find the web address, but if you type Lloyd Cole + Creative Noise on any search engine it would be easy enough to find...sorry about that)is based on an accurate definition of 'college' rock as the genre performed by liberal arts graduates/students, usually depicting their peers' existences in their lyrics,populated,however, with the literary and filmic references that those would recognise and appreciate, as other college graduates and would-be ones, will basically make up thir natural audiences.He claims Lloyd Cole, especially in his times with the Commotions as an early founder of such tradition, which would find its more remarkable exponent nowadays in Belle and Sebastian's works.And underlines the Scottishness of them all... An example of a fed-back, incestuous scene,maybe. I have missed the rescue of Headings perpetrated by Carsmile Steve,sorry if this becomes cumbersome and unreadable.Some people obviously enjoy the amount of free time at work to pen organised mails while they substitute their receptionist for a lark and talk to academic jet setters casually. Imagine the following scenario.Ring, ring on my colleague's desk while he has abandoned the Silicon Graphics for some paltry seconds.Being a not very mythomaniac person myself, I have found difficult to picture some name which would make my knees tremble with the doubt of holding up metaphorically the one at the other extreme of the line to ask him/her how that book was written, who is that person the song talks about, why that film had to end so sadly.But it would be a lifetime opportunity in certain cases...I don't know, I quite enjoyed the anecdote as the door to some surreal conversation between myself,Charles Smithson and Jeremy Irons in a telephonic remake of 'The French Lieutenant's wife'. I should think of working at some other academic institution.Maybe secretarial positions at the BFI are available in the next future.Hope I won't get confused with Charles Ryder too if the chance arrives. x Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+