There, I've said it. There's been some talk about indie do's and dont's, and I thought I'd contribute something to the list.
All genres of music have their very own cliques. They think they are better than other people. But lately I've started to think that indie hipsters are maybe the worst of them all. Hand on your heart; Look into the mirror and say: "I do not sneer at people who dress like everyone else does." Were you able to do that? Were you honest? Could you ever go out with someone who doesn't have the right hairdo, the right clothes, the right albums in his/her cd- collection?
Most indiehipsters (well, maybe I could say "us", but more about that later) aren't actually bad people in such, just... closeminded. There's some hipsters who are truly evil in their heart (hello), but there's rotten and deceptive people everywhere in the world. But not being able to understand that there can be people who don't really give a rat's ass about 7- inch singles, that's just... Example: If I should say here that i really don't care much about gay people, what would your reaction be? Anger? Think about it: That's what the worst indiehipsters do. They don't care much about
Hmm... Reading all the "indie" controversy I thought I'd throw my own hat into the ring. I thought the original post was pretty cool, and certinaly pretty perceptive After all everyone (the InDiE hIPSter (tm) Mafia) knows that the genuine InDiE hIPSter (tm) 1) Loves everything about The Strokes 2) Would't be seen in anything that hadn't come straight out of their grandparents wardrobe 3) Buy acres of obscure vinyl 4) Hangs around pubs making a pint last all night 5) Makes a religion of slagging off the girl in the bar for her cookie monster backpack Oh well, I guess the rest of us indie types will just have to cope with the stigma of not even being alternatively cool how terrible!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "jarkko frantila" <chamomile1@hotmail.com> To: <sinister@missprint.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: Sinister: People who call themselves indie are shite those
people who are into that "crappy, mainstream music", do they?
As I write this, wearing faded, darkblue jeans, old Converse sneakers and a B&S- t-shirt, I know I look like an indiekid (sic). But I don't think my clothes or my cd-collection makes me somehow better than other people. Some people seem to think that wearing cardigans straight from the 70's is like a secret handshake between indiers (nice word!). No, that's just the image of yourself you give out to people. In my case, I just like the way they look on me. If someone feels like s/he knows me just because I wear the same clothes s/he does, two words for them: piss off.
I am not a better person because I listen to music that doesn't sell well.
I am not a better person because I wear these clothes.
I am not better because I have this hair.
I am not a better person than people who aren't a part of this list.
-JF
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