so the 15th of september? that sounds fine to me. what sort of time are you thinking of? what's smile like? that's at the star & garter isn't it? a friend of mine puts on indigo at the uni & he's a big b&s fan & will be sure to play lots of b&s stuff if there's a load of us that go down. maybe even cheap in . . . . (he might kill me for saying that, so i'm not so sure yet, but maybe) i don't know what night indigo is on though . . . platt fields is dead easy for me and is a pretty central location so it might be good. however it might be bad too - lots of flashers as you say & it can be fairly dangerous around there too sometimes - a workmate of mine had his ear bitten off in there and someone got their ear bitten off there the other week too (that one was in the paper). but i don't neccessarily have another suggestion. maybe heaton park - now that's a LOVELY park. its huge too. but its quite far out of manchester. but there are regular buses that go past it. other than that i think i'm about through. what about some alternative venue if it rains (not unlikely, as i'm sure most of you know)? is there a bandstand in platt fields? or something undercover, or do we choose a back up place? i think there may be more questions than answers there, i hope i haven't made this more difficult . . . :-) as for help, yeah it shouldn't be a problem to do something, email me and let me know. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+