I have to agree with Brier wholeheartedly on this, as i too know the excruciating awkwardness of being thought not- straight. the reasons the girls give to me usually run the gamut from "but you always listen to me when I talk" to "you dress waaaay too nicely". huh. My friend and I, who has been in a similar situation before, decide that we have to take steps to rid ourselves of our 'nice guy' personalitites. However, it has proven muh harder than we thought- I cannot, for the life of me, wear anything with a huge logo on it without feeling rather silly- and saying things like 'sup' and 'whatever baby' is just stomach-warpingly bad. we came up with a protocol though- one must attempt to be entirely aloof at all times- never expressing emotion, and complimenting only those who might do something for you.... couple this with an overabundant sense of frankess, and success might be yours. it is SO hard to be an asshole though. I don't think I'll ever get it down... empathy is just impossible to negate when you're sitting next to a striking blond. so yes girls, why do we nice guys always get the shaft, so to speak? Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+