<< I don't know if you've heard about this, but there is such a negative response to poor Mexicans attempting to cross the border that a lot of Americans have a stereotypical view of Mexicans>> this opening a can of worms isn't it... Your post had a lot of good points, but there is *so* much more to this than just bigoted and ignorant Americans...anyway a music mailing list is hardly the place to go into immigration issues, not to mention the way e-mail leaves everything said open to misinterpretation!! <<So they label everything under the sun in a pathetic attempt to be distinctive.>> Yeah I think it's this and the tendency in our society to have everything simplified and categorized for easy consumption... the media seems to think if it can't be compacted into something easily marketable then we Yanks will get too confused to handle it. << Also any ideas on how to make our party American in theme are welcome.>> in keeping with the "stereotyping" theme I've got a suggestion: Spinger-a-thon!!! Have a barbeque, bake some apple pie, get some sparkly fireworks (firearms too, natch), and Budweiser. Put the pickup on blocks in the front yard. <<Being the type of sad bloke who spends excessive time on the internet, i invariably end up "talking " to some American goon who tells me "Hey man, Belle and Sebastian kick ass". >> Ian, I thought we were friends? ;-) Also a couple people mentioned My Drug Hell, I don't know much about them, but while vacationing in London earlier this year met the singer Tim in a club. He was a very, very friendly guy and based on Vicky's recommendation I think I'll just go out and buy that "girl at Bus Stop" song. Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it!! tara ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Somos todos conejitos felices que tararean . consonancias felices del conejito - no somos? -----------------------------------------------------------------------