Stine, wrote: so i seem to have twisted several peoples knickers lately. i think this is due to my lack of ability to articulate well. to clear the air... 1) i am not pro war 2) i am not a republican 3) i am not a dubya fan 4) i am, and have been for years, an active member of amnesty international 5) i am a member of the green party 6) i did not vote for bush 7) i did not vote for gore 8) i did vote for nader 9) yes, i think GWB is a scumbag....but i also think that Gore is a scumbag...and Clinton...and 99% ofpoliticians worldwide 10) please stop sending me hate mail and telling me that i know nothing. there have been many times where i have disagreed with opinions of people on sinister. i have never sent such an email. we are on this list to share our views, whether they be popular or not, and not to attack one another. if that were the case, i would bash every single person who likes the white stripes...i think they're shit, personally, but who the fuck cares? it's just a mailing list. 11) i have no firm stance on the war, really. my gut reaction is to say i am totally against it, yet i can respect and understand where people who are for it are coming from. if that makes me "suck" then so be it." Of which, I can personally say I fall into sections 1, 2, 3,6,7. I am neither pro or anti war, in public. Number 2 is also true for me too, cos I never voted for them. What with me being foreign and all, and not allowed to take part in other peoples elections. 3 is again, true, I did not pay membership and receive a free badge, secret code book and a monthly comic with occasional free mini plastic frisbee. 6 and 7 - no I didn't, they haven't been here to be elected, and you know, its the whole vote in the country in which you live, stuff, although maybe they should make it more open, just cos more people might vote if it was worldwide. 8 - who? I generally agree with number 9, with exception of Scotlands lovely bunch of politicians. Especially those conservatives. Always so polite and friendly and they remember my name and face, bless them. Mind you, I like the fact that the green political guy looks like Dr Who. Which is rather apt, seeing as there is a police box outside the parly office. I guess he parks it there in the mornings. I wonder what would happen if we had Dr Who running Scotland... would it look bigger on the outside than it was on the inside? Would our greatest terrorist threat be from extermination by daleks, in which case, all we have to do is build lots of steps everywhere. Which wouldn't be a bad thing, cos running up and down steps would get the people of scotland into some sort of shape. Plus, you know, the daleks would never visit the town of Stepps. Mind you, neither would I. Out of choice, its not my first holiday destination. But anyway, I am slightly degressing, and I think number 10 is really sad. I mean Stine's number 10, rather than the other number 10 where the BBC camps outside. I think that is sad. I remember, a while ago, a long long while ago, fairytale long while ago, I was having a rant (yes, really. A rant, can you believe it? heh. me. Of all people) about Kyoto agreements and such like, and making ridiculous suggestions about building giant B&Q (B&Q - Do It Yourself store that sells paint, fencing, spanners, etc) style fence round America and boycotting it. And people wrote me lots of rude e mails, some using the f word. Yes, Fencing. And I thought that was really sad. And I remember Neil Robertson getting grief for voicing an opinion on American politicians. The "OOH ESS EH!" mob didn't like it. Fair enough. I guess politics is one of those dangerous roads. You don't go down it unless you can be prepared to accept that voicing your opinion might not be appreciated by all. That is understandable. And there is all those ten commandments of not discussing P*l*t*cs and R*l*g**n on the list. WHich is also, fair enough, its there to stop us getting all het up, and we really should leave that to the professional tabloid media, and people who write letters to the Sunday Express. But at the same time, I don't think that voicing an opinion, whether it breaks rules, or not, is necessarily something people should be getting all angry about and sending rude emails telling the opinionator that their mother smells like wet fish (normal mother, not list mother) and their dad smells of elderberries and hamsters. I think that is sad. In terms of Stine knowing nothing, I don't know whether that is true or not. And neither do you. Disagreeing is fine, and sure, disagree. Disagree with me if you like. Come on. I can take ya. But don't be rude. Its a sad thing really, that to disagree, you have to make it into a personal assault. Disagee, but disagree with an iota of intelligence, otherwise the you're a hypocrite for saying the other person knows nothing, and you won't look big, or at all clever. I thought Mark Casarotto did an interesting job of showing us how to make a point, showing you can be big and clever. And I agree with him totally about voting. Not voting doesn't prove anything. You might make the "radical" assumption that you are somehow trying to bring chaos to the system, and a no-vote means that somewhere, somehow, you'll bring it all crashing down. You won't. If you have a political establishment, its not going to go away just because you don't vote. Even if lots of people don't vote together, it doesn't mean that it will stop existing. It won't. There will still be politicians. If it has been created, then its here to stay. Best just use your vote to the best of your own personal opinion and wisdom. Plus, if you don't vote, don't complain. I disagree with her thoughts on the White Stripes. I like them. And when she said "dirty vicar is officially the most amazing person on sinister!". Dirty Vicar? I'd have Ken Chu over Dirty Vicar anyday. Forgive me for making a comment that sounds like a popularity contest. But I'm not going to start sending her hate mail. I'm not taking a side here, I'm making a point. I'm saying this, but I'm trying to be careful at the same time, and not start dragging the list down into the gutters of stuff. Hopefully, List auntie will not reprimand me after class for saying this. End of sermon. ************************* IN HAPPIER NEWS!! Stacey asked us to write the thoughts we'd had on Mr Murdoch. I presume she meant Stuart, not Rupert, the media superemo, who makes money from tat and tit. I want to know what my reward is if I tell her. :) I guess he's rather funny looking, actually. He doesn't look like the average scottish bloke. ************************ Thankyou to Llew for clearing up the mystery of a cankle. I always just called it a leg. Cloche sounds like a silly word for an otherwise attractive hat. Carb Face and Atkins diets: there is somethin slightly worrying about any diet in my opinion that encourages someone to cut out certain foods from their diet. Malnutrion springs to mind, and as far as I'm concerned, all food stuffs have a purpose for our bodies. Beans make you smell; Brocoli is full of nutrients and such like, and chocolate gives you love. Hey, you can have two chocolate bars in a night and nobody thinks you're a slut. And if you have only one segment from a bar, nobody will call you a prick tease. Or cocoa tease, for that matter. My mum has a disease, of the genetic disorder kind. I should go get myself tested too, to see if I'm going to have to go through what she is going through. She has hemochromotosis, if thats the right spelling, which basically is too much iron in the body. If left too long, it can kill. Apparently, its the most common genetic disorder in North America, and very common in North Europeans. Another aspect of iron, as I understand from picking up bits of information, is that it feeds cancer cells. She has to get a pint of blood taken from her every week, over a period of a few months to help reduce her iron count. WHich is a bit icky, and I really don't fancy having it myself. I find it interesting, that so many commericals in the UK advertise cereals with having lots of iron in them, yet too much iron is a bad thing too. The good news is that green veg isn't very good for her. Chocolate and coffee is. very good for her. Mmm. ******************* Right. Nothing to do. love idles (your least favourite sinister person, and proud of it) xxx ===== <a href="http://retrosec.blogspot.com/">http://retrosec.blogspot.com/</a> thoughts __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. 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