Well, what I meant by "as big as the Cardigans" was mainly: MTV popularity (buzz clips, reports by Loder on the possibilty of a Tigermilk reissue, etc.) and radio popularity ("coming up this hour we've got Bush and the new one from Belle and Sebastian 'I Just Love Buses'"). I have no doubt that B&S will be recognized for what a great band they are (and one day, were). That is largely the case with VU and Joy Division nowadays. People "in the know" know these bands, but your average music listener doesn't (he may have "heard of them"). But they do know the Cardigans. And, yes, they will probably be forgotten as soon as MTV forgets them. I don't really know anything about Pulp, but then I have a short attention span. I think they may have been largely a UK phenomenom. (I hope I am not putting my foot in my mouth here.) (parenthetically "yours") michael ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------