Dear All Sinister I'm posting after a while but it has been great to hear voices from you all during these days which has been really dramatic. When something of this proportions happens there is always the risk of say words which can simply sound rhetorical and/or empty. Which is exactly what the media does every time getting a shade of ridiculous over the most serious and worth happenings. I don't think I'm going saying anything else more of what has already been said, which will be just not redundant. I would only like to add a little comment about the future reactions, which can be simplified in the question, is revenge an answer? Moreover, will this so called "war again terrorism" really hit the terrorist or just reflect over innocents, and build up the background for hate which will in turn result in senseless (for equilibrated and neutral point of observation) action as the one happened in the U.S or the little but much continuous happening, or which had happened so frequently, in Israel? Look at the war in the Gulf, has it resolved anything? Everyday people is dieing in Iraq because of embargo, which also strikes innocent, and not the so called guilty, if we would admit that Saddam is, for example. Can innocent blood wash the blood of innocents? Isn't it just the basic of terroristic action, killing for killing. But If I should say that, it is even worst if the most powerful nation in the world, the U.S, and all the occident will act this way, because while the terrorist will never be able to strike a defined target, such as say the President, or governor, or the chief of the army or anything, all this country can do a war, if the want, which will not reverse that much on the civil, as the last examples has been (Iraq, Bosnia, Serbia). I'll be the happiest people around if the Taleban regime will be defeated, but that is not because of a war against terrorism, or for the fact in N.Y.C. or Washington, rather for the conditions, especially of woman, which are far from that which belongs to human being. But this was well know even before, but none of the so called "big" and "civil" country did anything for that, or would have done, unless the other tragedy happen. Do we ever need to be so shocked to react sometimes to evidence? Part (b) Second point, a kind of a philosophical. Thinking at the fact in N.Y.C. and combining it with recent facts happened in my very little universe, I turn wondering about the role of fate in every day's life . Ok, I should admit this is not really a "new" or particularly bright topic, either don't know why I said it could be in philosophical kind, but well this is the point. I'm really not one of the people who believe in everything being set by a obscure predestined design. I'd rather say I'm in general of the opposite opinion, rather humanistic, of a man being the "faber" of his own existence. Which is quiet a pure but poisoning, or better corrosive attitude to look at the things. Obviously I mean that in general terms as constrains and boundaries may be considered. And all the my wondering about of the last days has been around this boundary conditions and eventualities. Briefly do you think there are things that no matter the effort of the wish you could put in to realise, will never turn the way you would love to, simply because the don't belongs to you? Here is the matter of the fate, which has pointed you to or far away your quest . To make a long story short, and not getting into detailed speculations which has led me to the answer, I think the answer is "yes". I would love to hear more opinion about that I think I've been to self influenced to get out of it clearly .mhmhmh sounds confusing at the end Sorry for the long post, Take care your sinister Stefano :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: Stefano Centro CNR Biologia Cellulare e Molecolare dell Piante Sez. Fis. Veget. Fotosintesi Università degli Studi di Milano Via Celoria 26 20133 Milano Italia/Italy Stefano.santabarbara@unimi.it :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+