Incidentally I just thought of this: "Stuart Murdoch gives both of us (she and me) severe heart palpitations" - WOAH is this it... hrm. well, does this work?
Spookily similar to something I posted a couple of weeks ago:
Someone was asking why yu couldn't use 'she and me' in a sentence. I think it's because the two words are different declensions (is that the word?). So you can say 'she and I' (as in 'she and I are both wearing cardigans') or 'her and me' (as in 'Stuart Murdoch gives both her and me palpitations'). Errr... dull post this, isn't it.
An easy way to work it out is to leave out one of the people you're mentioning. You can't say something like "Stuart Murdoch gives she and me palpitations" because if you leave out the 'me' you get "Stuart Murdoch gives she palpitations" which is wrong. It should be 'her' and not 'she'. That's why I don't think you can have "she and me" in a sentence - it's grammatically incorrect because the two words are incompatible being in different declensions (if that's the right word). I think it might be to do with one being passive and the other active, but I'm not sure. Incidentally, you can use the same trick to work out whether you should be saying "you and I" or "you and me". But for the same reason you can only say "he and I" or "him and me". You can't say "he and me". Pedantic or what? Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles@boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+