All this talk of the seasons and how they relate to songs has indeed struck a chord. It ties in with a discussion which sprung up on the Tindersticks list. For those familiar with Tindersticks' albums the first one (cover: painting of a flamenco dancer) is autumnal (all those reds and browns). The second album (cover: suit fitting in black and white) has a wintery feel whereas Curtains is more spring/summer (cover: roses coming into bloom). Maybe the new Tindersticks album will be summery disco tunes. For those who are interested, it's going to be called 'Simple Pleasures' As an aside, do the Americans on the list use the word 'autumnal' or do they use a descriptive word based on 'fall' like 'the weather was very fallian today' So much music is all 'look at me, look at me, aren't I fab'. I think this is what connects fans of B+S, Tindersticks and also Pulp, as Jan said. All these bands don't *demand* our attention like acts such as Oasis, the Verve and Robbie Williams. They seem to say 'We quite like the music we play and it would be quite nice if you'd give it a listen. We're not going to force you to listen to it though'. I suppose the lyrics of B+S and Pulp also share the theme that a lot of them are about people other than the author. There's the sense of the quiet outsider, peering through the windows of other peoples lives. Due to a bit of luck I had at the bookmakers I had money to burn when I went out to purchase the Looper album so I bought the Smog CD 'Knock Knock'. It is bloody fantastic and I'm wondering if any Sinisterines have any recommendations as to their previous output. I vaguely remember a song about horses which was quite good. I've only been on the list a month or so and I was amazed at the length of all the postings. 'How can they all find so much to write about', I thought. As this debut post confirms, it's easier than I thought. bye for now Andrew Tracey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+