-----Original Message----- From: duke of harringay [SMTP:tangent@mail.zynet.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 1997 9:35 AM To: sinister@majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: selling out to majors Or that Lester Bangs going on about Astral Weeks doesn't make you want to go out and check it yourself (it did me!). Or Kevin Pearce's awesome and inspiring 'Something BEginning With O' makes you want to discover The Action, Creation, Godard and the mythic Dexys? I could go on... Matt Haynes 'Are You Scared To Get Happy' and Kevin's 'Hungry Beat' fanzines. Inspirational, thrillling fanzines that turned me onto some truly great Pop. Or Morley and McCulloch in Sounds and MM in the 80s. Biba Kopf even for a lot of people. Pop classics every one. Apart from Astral Weeks which is some other kind of classic, I guess. i think if we start thinking about the artists as 'just' artists then we miss out on a lot. in fact i think maybe we miss out on some essence of what makes them mean something to us in the first place. You need to claim art for yourself. As soon as a piece of work for 'public consumption' is released, be it a Pop song, architecture or software or whatever, it's down to the individual 'consumer' or user, to interpret it, apply it, use and abuse it in whatever way they see fit. I completely agree. Pop, for me, is all obout crativity. That means the act of creating your own meanings and excitement out of pop as much as it means creating fanzines, your own music, whatever. Pop gives us an excellent space for inventing ourselves and reinventing our world. That's not to say that pop can be directly responsible for any future downfall of capitalism. What Belle & Sebastian might do, it seems to me, is actually create a situation where much of this right to abuse and adapt their art to the needs of the user is left intact, is manipulated as little as possible by the intermediary delivery service (the Record Label and the Media). I'm (probably understandably) less keen on the idea of the purity of the communication of art than you, sir duke. If you're making your own meanings anyway, it doesn't seem to me to be that important. A minor point. If I mention Belle and Sebastian here, can I not be told off for going off-topic, please :-)? 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