Forgive me, an impatient mail. Mark, on "Baby" Chris:
Moving on...certain ancient people with long memories would probably suggest that I don't get into this, but BabyChris' comments about the Cool Set in London (forgive the paraphrase) seem a bit tetchy and far from the truth.
... Sinister is meant to bring us together, and does an impossibly good job of it. There's no need to try and create some kind of division which simply doesn't exist. Especially in your valedictory post.
And about Americans. And about someone he doesn't like who took the time to contribute to Papercuts. And about someone whose face he didn't like at the picnic. Chris is no longer with us, I helped him along in unsubscribing. I'm afraid this may be a lack of patience on my part, but the sort of posts that say "bye bye I'm leaving, and by the way, most of you are wankers" really gets to me; people only get so much rope. Who read all of yesterday's 30 posts to the list? How many of the people who posted have read all those before? How many of those who posted really thought all 1300 people really wanted to read what they said? How many of those people decided to wait before posting, to see if they had a few things they could send at once later on to make things more digestible for the other 1299 who were about to receive their mails? These questions aren't a dig at anyone, they're not quite rhetorical. Some of the mails as always were delicious. But if you're posting and don't care less, then you're going to feel a hand on your shoulder soon I'm afraid. Or everything will just go very quiet for you, more likely, because I haven't time to enter into debate. You all know the score, I've bored you all to tears with it before, and most of you are incredibly patient putting up with my nagging, and careful about what you send; it's the few who don't. I do find that by and large people can tell who cares and who doesn't, and if it's obvious someone doesn't, or hasn't read this mail, or doesn't care what's in it, I might have to do something drastic, because I just don't have the time to run this *and* send these mails. Remember this list isn't affiliated to anyone, isn't paid for by any organisation, doesn't have anything to do with Jeepster or the band, is just a place you all come to meet: You Get The List You Make. If you're on this list just to get an audience for your own thoughts on life, or breakfast, I'm afraid you don't belong. If a mail took you less than 15 minutes to write, then maybe you should think before sending it: it probably means you just want something, and to get something, you usually have to give something too. If you're not reading what others are posting because it's all too much, then you have no business posting. If you find this hard to understand, or unreasonable, please give a thought to what how many of those other posts you just can't get through would be there if they'd followed this rule. And if you plain don't like the kind of environment that expects this, then there are plenty of other mailing lists that don't have to worry about such niceties that you could go to: it's just, they aren't usually so big or long-lived. But you might be happier there, or you can go and make your own lists, it's what the Internet's for. But I'm mum here. Sinister has been a special very place, to me as much as anyone, and I'm just here to do a bit of weeding, which is what this rather impatient mail is about: knowing what the majority of you want, because you tell me, and trying to keep it that way. If I'm getting it wrong, please do mail me about it, but let's not discuss it on the list: that way lies list conflagration. For nearly three years Sinister has trundled along more or less merrily, and I'd like to see it through for at least another, if we can avoid falling into the holes most mailing lists trip up in and die. This mail did take me more than 15 minutes to write, and I feel a bit of a toad sending it. I suspect it's not going to win me any list crushes. I *really* hate sending these mails, and afterwards I worry like mad. It's just, I really love this list. Grrrrrrrr, Honey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+