Dear chums I am about to listen to a programme on Radio 4 which discusses this. When the answer comes, I will let you know... One extremely good use of the Internet is the new Camera Obscura website - http://www.camera-obscura.net/ Someone asked me to pass this on, and as it was discussed at the sinister picnic (lovely to see people there, and to catch up, and eat pringles and feed Bailey the dog with coconut ice), I will. They are all look so cool...the cars, the books, and the recipes for tattie scones... The tape tree day approaches. I apologise in advance for my lateness. I know that is not the spirit, Stacey, but I'll blame the post. Linda x +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+