I think i need to clarify something. I may be a bitter shell of a man, but I don't hate women. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I hate any of you, seeing as I don't know anyone on the list. I just have a problem with the culture that surrounds me. I am just describing my city which is Toronto as I see it. I know it's a sweeping generalization. But what am I supposed to do? be affraid to make broad statements? I would never make such ridiculous comments like "she wanted it, they all do" in any sort of serious context, it was more of a play on that whole rrriot grrl deal ala Lydia Lunch that went horribly wrong. Of course how would any of you know that, without me telling you. So I can see why I may have been taken as a bit of a misogynist. I'm still getting used to this whole internet anonymity thing. I just take it as a given that no person would say such things not in jest. Apparently "cold ass bitch" and "getting filled" are not terms used the world over. I learn something new everyday. For reference a "cold ass bitch" is a woman or young lady who tends to be on the superficial side, and cares little for your feelings or the feelings of those around her. Not to be confused with the "MHB" (or money hungry bitch) who cares for your feelings as long as the money keeps flowing. "Getting Filled" is typically looked at as sex without any emotional meaning what so ever. Although in some circles it also alludes to particularly violent anal sex. Hope that clears it all up. have a nice day, Jason +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+