This lpost may seem rather old now, but I've only just got around to reading the Sinister messages from the 10th onwards.... I'm quite shaken up by Jarkko's letter regarding WBC. I meant, I know that highly predudices regigious sects exist all over the world, but to publish what amounts to a modern day Klu Klux Clan site in a public domain makes you really think hard about how much you value free speach. I find the hole history of free speach quite remarkable; in the past, it has always been the fight of talented writers with insight and courage battling against predudiced religious authorities to get their works published and their ideas known, from Galilleo to Henry Miller. But now that an acceptable amount of free speach is the norm for most people in most western countries (although far to many people are denied even this basic right), it seems to be abused by a minority of individuals and organisations, most of whom are religious. The whole national identity/national front thing in England, encouraged by Enoch Powell, was (and still is) a way of hiding gross racism behind a mask of religion. I'm really sorry about this, but I feel utterly sick, and as much as I love yr twee posts almost as much as much as I love ice cream, today will be dominated by the kind of self loathing that always settles in when I realise that I'm far too privledged in life. I have very little understanding of what makes a person straight or gay. I think its something to do with the way the brain develops in early pregnancy. In the first month or so of a human foetus, a single layer of cells develops and divides. Trought differentiation and migration, the brain develops. At this stage, many personality traites are formed, such as the predominate handedness, things like dyslexia, and yr inclinations over guys or girls. The things affecting this development include the balence of chemicals such as eostrogen in the mother at the time, amoungst other thngs. As far as I can make out, this process is just as 'natural' for straight or gay people. If someone wants to insist that God gives life, then they also have to admit that God makes people Gay, contrary to one of his commands... mind you, he also creates people who, due to real lack of sensitivity to certain emotional stimuli, we term psychopaths... he creates people with a tendency to kill, then judges them with hellfire or whatever? Seems bullshit to me, even assuming God exists. Sorry to go on, once again... but I'm curious, can any of this bullshit reasonably be reasoned? I don't know much about biology or neurology - I'm a philosophy student - but I do have an interest inb whether ideas which seem ridiculous can be argued for. I can't imagine any possible way in which such blatent biggotry could be defended, and I'd really love to meat someone who thinks otherwise... preferably down a dark alleyway, armed with a baseball bat and a healthy set of emotions.... Has anyone read to here? hahaha, thought not. Love to you all, Mark xxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+