Mick Mcmick wrote ....
for Field Mice singles, so there's no excuse... And there is going to be a lovely Field Mice retrospective soon, so you can all decide whether the comparisons are at all justified (look at the Shinkansen
Yes, and some day there will be a Field Mice tribute, too. I think the retrospective will come out sooner. As a fan who was 9 years old when they formed, I think it's good that they are giving us the opportunity to hear their songs again without paying a ton of money.
Thats not always the case, I found a copy of So Said Kay in Preston market for a quid. I don't think Sarah will ever let me live it down though. Sorry Sarah. Chris wrote.....
Hurrah! Hooray! My Looper single arrived yesterday. Boo! Hiss! It didn't have a middle. Which of you bastards stole it?
I was a bit worried when I spotted that myself until .....
PS: I played it anyway, by carefully positioning it near the centre of the turntable.
..... I rememebred I had one of those weird things you can get to stick in the hole in a record I bought years ago so I used that. Peter J wrote ....
When's Sarah coming back off her holidays? I'm looking forward to some nice ink polaroids and the return of her caustic napalm wit. At times like this her absence is a yawning chasm of emptiness.
She's back, she got back tonight. Yes her rapier wit is one to treasure, sending me things through the post addressed to Moonbeam is purely uncalled for though I think. 87) Gary "Inside every bag of shite is a spark of gold, now it's probably just the wrapper off a Caramac, but it's there". Paul Calf.
Peter
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:26:28 +0100 From: John Johnston <JohnJ@digitalpeople.com> Subject: Sinister: mags a lot
Robert "The Thunderer" McTagTeam kindly provided us with the address of the Idler and after his and Rod's robust endorsements I'm keen to check it out. I like the idea of magazine/periodical suggestions - books and films and all that are always being recommended.
I can only recommend When Saturday Comes if you are keen on a good footy mag. It's great beacause it's about football not about Footballers - so no debate about Teddy Sheringham's favourite golf courses, just stuff about fans and the game and real issues. And it's funny too, with great cartoons. And the WSC world cup wallchart came with free stickers! I rest my case.
The only music mag I ever read is Select but I only get it occasionaly nowadays. One thing that really pisses me off about it is their editorial veneration for the drinking/drug taking exploits of all the stars of the hit parade...perhaps I'm just showing my age.
xx John Who can't wait to make "Phwoar" when playing Scrabble..
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:40:09 +0100 From: Nic Pillinger <nic.p@gordian.co.uk> Subject: Re: Sinister: Re:More media monitoring
somebody asked about the Salako sampler and what might be on it. I can now reveal whats on it as I got it in the post this morning.
Salako - six track sampler "rE-inVentiNg;Punc.tU!at?iOn>:
1-go on then! enlighten me, why doncha? 2-words are not useful 3-glass-bottom boat rides 4-for inspiration only 5-porpoise sunlamp 6-growing up in the night
so now you know ! haven't listened to it yet. I'll report back later.
cheers Nic
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:13:27 +0100 From: JJ <johnj@seahouses.u-net.com> Subject: Sinister: Looper
Chris wrote:
Hurrah! Hooray! My Looper single arrived yesterday. Boo! Hiss! It didn't have a middle. Which of you bastards stole it?
C.
Ours was like that too. it only had a beginning and an end.
strange people those Loopers.
Rachel.
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:22:27 From: "Dr Nick Morton" <GGY3SWM4@novell2.bham.ac.uk> Subject: Sinister:see you then!
I was going to write a message bemoaning the fact that I seemed to be the only person on the planet not to have heard the new album....*sob*... except that this time I did hear Mark and Lard AND Jo Wiley and both songs are fab and I'M SUCH A HAPPY BUNNY!!!!
Makes all the wading through Cleopatra, Sash!, Embrace and so on worthwhile. Yay!!
As this is also - yes- the 10 month anniversary of my joining Sinister, I just wanted to say THANKYOU to everyone. I may not actually write very much at all but that doesn't mean I don't LOVE this list and most of the people I've met on it. I think this has all made B&s an even more significant thing in my life, the list and the band are now inseperable to me. Only now I have to unsub for a couple of weeks... so, byeee!
Oh, and on that Lightning Seeds thing - I don't want this to sound like some I-was-there-first kind of thing, but its sad to see them just being known for that-Match-of-the-day theme and the intensely irritating You Showed Me. It all went downhill when he let OTHER PEOPLE play, that bunch of Cast-offs (literally) he has backing him. Even if they are fun live. But I fell in love with Pure back in 1989 - and just listen to the Cloudcuckooland album and tell me its not chock full of 11 perfect pop songs...
Nick
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And the sad part is..... You do my world the world of good
e-mail: ggy3swm4@novell2.bham.ac.uk
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:54:26 +0100 From: "Hopkins, Tim" <t.hopkins@lancaster.ac.uk> Subject: Sinister: An humble plea
Good morning,
I am writing to the list to ask whether you folks could please see your way clear to not talking about the new LP at all, even after it has been released.
You see, I am planning to avoid the LP completely until such time as it has been deleted and become a sought-after and fabulously expensive collector's item. Then, I'll buy a dodgy bootleg CD of it, at a ridiculously inflated price, with badly scanned artwork and mediocre-quality sound.
Any other way of hearing it would ruin the excitement for me.
Thanking you in advance,
Tim
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:16:32 +0100 From: "Keith Watson" <keith@qss.co.uk> Subject: Sinister: My favourite page
Here's one of my current favourite pages... the dotmusic all-time greatest album charts.
http://www.dotmusic.com/premier/chartofalltime.shtml
This is a farcical joke and it's just kind of what you might expect. What I was wondering is if we could all vote for the same album (there's a list of them that they provide) and make it a really shite one, and try to knock it up to the top...
There's some real clangers in the list of classic albums (all the usual suspects : Tubular Bells, Dark side of the Moon, Bat out of Hell - oops... I like all of these), and my suggestion is that we all vote for "Cracked rear view" by Hootie and the Blowfish - at least it'll keep dear old Danny Baker happy.
The voting page is on : http://www.dotmusic.com/premier/vote/index4.html
Oh - and you'll note that only people over 18 have suitably shite music taste in order to be allowed to take part. You prove your age by clicking in the tick box that says "I'm over 18" (Alice Cooper is disqualified on account of being 18 for example).
Incidentally, note also that there's a "buy" button right next to the "vote" button - please don't click the buy button, I'd hate to be responsible for the entire Belle and Sebastian list buying a Hootie and the Blowfish album.
These things are so completely shit really - what I really want to see is an all time worst album chart - or worst artist of all time. That'd be more like it. The Lighthouse Family, the Spin Doctors, Matt Bianco, Manhattan Transfer, The Red Hot Chili Peppers etc.
Cheers, Keith.
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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2098 13:22:25 +0100 From: "Cassell Professional Publishing" <d.barker@cassell-prof.co.uk> Subject: Sinister: Number Ones
I know this is counting chickens rather, but when was the last time a number one album didn't have a single taken off it? It must be a very long time. Unless, of course, that woman who sings on cruise ships counts. Was there a single off her album. If there wasn't, it makes my question very redundant indeed.
As for the Orchids and Field Mice stuff, I reckon the Orchids are much closer to B and S in spirit. There is a cheekiness to most Orchids material that the Field Mice, for all their qualities, never possessed. Am I alone in thinking that Trembling Blue Stars are the worst of Bob Wratten's incarnations so far? I just think most of the Field Mice and NPL stuff was so much better. My absolute favourite song of his is Dear Faraway Friend, an eleven minute epic that was on a NPL EP. If you listen to the feedback at the end very loud on headphones, it really feels like your head is disintegrating. Lovely.
Is anyone else bored rigid by feedback? Is it to do with growing old? It's one of the reasons I love B and S so much, that they don't bother with it. It just seems a bit lazy, really.
One more thing: anyone who's ever swooned over Nick Drake should rush out to get a copy of the Union Wireless seven inch called Some Morning. It sounds like the last ten seconds of a Nick Drake song (I think it's Hazy Jane 2) stretched out for five minutes, and it is totally lush.
Later,
DAVID
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:34:06 -0400 From: "Rehak, Kimberly" <kfr9@cdc.gov> Subject: Sinister: patience is a virtue... and i have it
Good morning and Happy Friday! (please don't read this to sound as happy as it seems, for i am still working)
Well, while all of you are talking about the forthcoming album you've already managed to lay your hands on and about all of the times you've heard b&s on the radio, I treasure the three times that i actually have. And like the minimum few who are waiting until the actual release to hear the next album, way to go you virtuous creatures! Let's pretend that we are seven years old again and start a club. Any name suggestions?
Nevermind, Kim
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 05:35:24 PDT From: "yaniv gafni" <ygafni@hotmail.com> Subject: [none]
i first heard b$s on the "alternative nation" on mtv. i loved theur music - melodic,innocent and charming. the video clips were amazing as they reflected perfectly the music's atmosphire. than i bought "sinister" and fell in love completly. i think its quite rare to find bands who write songs so beatiful as b$s do. plus they have a great singer and a sound that reminds me of arthur lee (love),syd barret,nick drake,byrds,early david bowie but much better! this is the music created by and for good peple. b$s are the greatest folk-pop-rock band i have ever heard. i can't wait to listen to their new album. - yaniv -
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:20:28 +0100 From: "Keith Watson" <keith@qss.co.uk> Subject: Re: Sinister: patience is a virtue... and i have it
Let's pretend
that we are seven years old again and start a club. Any name suggestions?
Bluesoda?
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:28:09 PDT From: "Todd Beatty" <gaviston@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Sinister: patience is a virtue... and i have it
" Let's pretend that we are seven years old again and start a club. Any name suggestions?"
how 'bout "In the dark youngsters?"
- ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Rehak, Kimberly" <kfr9@cdc.gov> To: "'sinister@majordomo.net'" <sinister@majordomo.net> Subject: Sinister: patience is a virtue... and i have it Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:34:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Rehak, Kimberly" <kfr9@cdc.gov>
Good morning and Happy Friday! (please don't read this to sound as happy as it seems, for i am still working)
Well, while all of you are talking about the forthcoming album you've already managed to lay your hands on and about all of the times you've heard b&s on the radio, I treasure the three times that i actually have. And like the minimum few who are waiting until the actual release to hear the next album, way to go you virtuous creatures! Let's pretend that we are seven years old again and start a club. Any name suggestions?
Nevermind, Kim
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:29:04 -0400 From: blink@inexpress.net Subject: Sinister: chicken lover chicken lover
hello...(warning:ok yes yes ima immature high schooler,but 'gosh darn it all',i'm trying!) Did all you lovely people get a good nights sleep?? i thought i was hallucinating because a little flash kept moving around my room then i realised it was a firefly..aren't they neat (they must have a light baulb in their butts or something)i could look this up in my Big Book Of Questions And Answers but ummm,i'm not!
i hope you all have a good time at these concerts,you lucky lucky muffins I don't know when they are but judging by frantic 'oh GOD i'll kill someone for a ticket!' i tink prettty soon,yes?
i still think Belle and Sebastian would like playing in quebec..they can come to my spa (you can all come for free) well it's a crik (creek) but there's lots of fun squishy mud and no leeches and i'll sit back and watch stuart murdoch mud wrestle...there are thistles,but i expect them being Scottish to love them...and lovingly gather boquets of them and dance a merry dance... i still think my mother should take me to see them..i mean she love them really (plus she has same birthday as mister murdoch!) but welll more likely i am going to sit on top of a hill with old man withers (98 years old and he can still bake his own bread) he even wants to go...but he just wants to find a yugoslovian supermodel and eat corn..well just me as old man withers has no teeth.
i don't have to worry about hearing The Boy With The Arab Strap and ruining the surprise.(but that ok..i cna be patient..just the other day i was listening to The State That I Am In..in the car, what can i say? the breeze..the sunset,i thought my heart would burst fom the sheer lovelienesss)..because that's just not going to happen OH and Belle and Sebastian were played on the (college) radio! The lady played Dog On Wheels and she's like 'this is all we have of Belle and Sebastian) and at first i felt sumg 'har har! i have more than the radio!' but then i though..oh poor things,and now i want to send an anonymous brown paper package tied up with string of all things belle and sebastian... Keith's discman sounds lovely...never ending batteries....oh how i wish that were true with mine..at first everyone made a fuss over mine because it has a radio (even tho i barely listen to radio) but now it is Mephisto Hellfire The Discman..it seems i hear only a few songs then...BEEP BEEP..LOW BATT...LOW BATT... I was going to see the avengers but i keep hearing cries of pish into the night..so perhaps i will wait and see 54 instead.And what is this movie with the pi sign...??
uh-oh..better stop now!!! yours sweetly, Genevieve
how come the manics are growing beards?
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 15:06:16 +0100 From: "Hopkins, Tim" <t.hopkins@lancaster.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Sinister: Idle Loafers
Roberto di Charietta Miller wrote:
I'm very much in favour of ska music.
Me too, although I think the current crop of US alt.ska-punk things miss the point a bit. Then again, what would I know? I once shook hands with a man who had shaken hands with Clement Dodd, aka Coxsone, the most important record producer in ska history. Having said that, the fellow whose hand I shook was in a band supporting Rancid, and no doubt he'd shaken the hand of somebody Rancid more recently than Coxsone's. So I decided to wash my hand after all. I have to admit to never having heard Rancid, but they don't sound very good to me. I think it might be the name. I expect they R!O!C!K!. Keith, oh keeper of the Sinister guitar, can you enlighten me?
I'm going to get some one day. Quite possibly "The Best of Don Drummond", who murdered his wife. Probably because she said Don was a great trombone player and, no doubt, a great bloke, but ska? No way, Don. 2-Tone is my cup of tea too. Do Nothing. Ska is one of the poppiest forms of pop in pop history.
Poor Don D, reckoned to be one of the two greatest trombonists in the world, (along with J J Johnson), he ended his days far too early in some asylum. But his records touched genius. I'm already planning my ska/rocksteady tape for Peter, here. It'll start with the marvellous 'Fat Man' by Derrick Morgan. It will also include 'Fatty Fatty' by Clancy Eccles, and 'Fattie Fattie' by The Heptones. Can you spot a theme? But, yeah, ska is absolutley poppalicious. Music for listening to and dancing to. Yum.
Tomorrow we're going to a pre-nuptial celebration in some vulture infested mountains, enabling us to play my favourite form of Chicken - who can lie still the longest.
You got that idea from The Idler, didn't you?
Keith wrote:
Here's one of my current favourite pages... the dotmusic all-time greatest album charts.
Keith likes this site becase it has 'My Generation' by the Who listed as a '90s album, and it makes him feel contemporary.
I read Smash Hits.
Cheers
Tim
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