i just read this from Chris: "I personally don't believe that a homosexual lifestyle and family environment(ie. - katy stays with ron and dave, or whatever that book was) should be promoted as a replacement for a hetrosexual family environment, as it CANNOT BE EQUAL - there are two 'fathers' or 'mothers'." Oh what utter bullshit. This truly is the heat of the argument isn't it? Define family. Well, just because we can't create a life doesn't mean that we can't nurture it and help it to grow healthy. There is no perfect family, and I believe if you ask around in your obvious little world that there is no perfect family. Not only can we be equal but I could be an improvement. One male and one female is not the ideal; no one person can define what makes this absolutely required in a family. Then I further read: "However, the catholic church HAS NO PROBLEM WITH HOMOSEXUALS. However, it does not agree with homosexual acts (ie. sex) due to it's definition of the purpose of sex. It believes that sex is a sign of commitment in a permanent loving relationship. It also belives that sex is there to consumate marriges and create a physical bond between two people, to create a reminder of thier love, in the form of a child." Why oh thank you. Well you can keep your type of sex. And that lovely little insight into what happens between same sex couples is proof that your little Catholic teacher is practising his/her Catholic upbringing by grossly generalizing the issue. The physical nature of humans and animals in general has been around a lot longer that the notion of your religion. You have offended me but you have brought to light the teachings of the Catholic Church. The arrogance as well as an attempt at compassion. My government (Can.) is going through the same argument right now and one of the bigger arguments is Canada is not a church state. We are not ruled by one religion, we are protected to practice our religion even if it includes not following one at all. I want the same protection, awareness, compassion as everyone else without being reminded that I receive this only because I can be tolerated. Ugh...I've had too much caffeine I think. a. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+