The list's still functioning but I think (it's not clear, and they didn't see the need to tell anyone) the provider Esosoft has taken away any means of subscribing/unsubscribing for you all, and presumably you can't set nomail etc. If you try, you'll get a mail suggesting you do this through the Topica site - it doesn't work, so don't even try. I also don't think I can do any admin so sorry if you can't post because you have a list problem, or need unsubscribing - I just can't do it. All this was done without my consent, to a service I pay for, and I'm getting no response from Esosoft I'm afraid so far. What this means is, because of Esosoft's exquisite timing, if you forget to unsubscribe before you leave for Christmas there's NOTHING I can do I'm afraid. All I get back is the stock message that the list's been transferred. I'm looking for a new mailing list provider like mad, be assured - click on the top link of the Sinister site for up to date info. In the meantime, keep posting as long as it works, and if you wish to complain, please send something to service@esosoft.com, support@esosoft.com, and copy to myself at this address, and PLEASE mention that you're writing for the "sinister@majordomo.net" list. But please do read the information on the WWW site first to make sure you know the score. And sorry I'm not up to personal replies at the moment, but all will be well soon, I promise. Night, Honey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+