Righto. Also saw "High Fidelity" last night. I thought it made the transfer from the UK to the US quite well ... far better than I expected. I clpped when they played "Seymour Stein". I'm quite surpirsed that song isn't on the soundtrack .... (I also clapped when Dick knocked Ray's teeth out with the phone - proving (perhaps) that I am a little evil.) Sometimes extreme violence in fiction can be very beautiful Especially against such a smug prat as "Ray". ***PROG*** Hmmmm. I always thought I hated prog, but now I'm not too sure. But let me say I DESPISE Rick Wakeman. Evil man ..... Rock opera on ice? WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING!!!!! I think Pink Floyd are "OK". I have no intention of ever owning anything by them, but I can listen to "Dark Side of the Moon" without wanting to kill myself. Unlike either The Vengaboys or Shania Twain. (Canada - how could you DO that to us ....) I think, however, that much of Pink Floyd's music has the illusion of emotional depth, but doesn't really say anything. "Deep and meaningless" would be my soundbite review. Whilst musing over the current prog debtae, though, I came to the conclusion that a lot of the music I like does have links to prog. Like Suede at their finest (ie. "Dog Man Star") and Mansun ("Six") and obviously Ultrasound. And I LOVE those bands. And if "Mellon Collie and the Infinate Sadness" isn't the "Tales from the topographic oceans" for the 90's, I don't know what is. I don't think there is any crime in writing 10 minute songs and using classical elements. I think what I hate about 70's era prog is the whole idea about making "serious" pop music. Music which is "important" because it uses classical elements etc. Forget it pal .... pop music is a completely different animal and I don't think you can place them side by side. (And I wrote a rather excellent essay about this in the final year of my Philosophy degree a few years back. I could be a cold hearted bastard and post the ENTIRE 3000 word doc. to the list. But then no one would ever give me a list crush vote. (sigh) But if anyone wants it, I can probably dig it out. Well, rock on kids..... Lawrence +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+