Actually there won't be one. This just to say that your list manager will be away for some of this week and next, and expects you all to be good bunnies, not make rude signs to the neighbours, and not feed your little sister to the dog. And keep the house tidy. I'll probably pop in remotely to do any maintenance I can, and because it will cost me I will be less patient... grrr. And thanks for reading my last long rather serious mail (if you did) and if you didn't then go and do so now - it's become mandatory as a lot of people are ignoring it. It's at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/current/0823.html - there, that's nice and easy for you. I'm going to start getting tough as the survival of this list depends on it, so a few people will be hearing from me shortly if they don't show some public spirit and do what's needed to keep this list alive. I'm even prepared to make some of you the ultimate sacrifice. The list rules aren't optional and I will do what's needed to make sure this remains a good place for people to be, based on what people tell me they want. Remember discussions about what mails people should be sending to mailing lists are best done privately with the list manager rather than on the list or we all disappear up our own back passages. Messy. So please, although it's tempting, don't mail the list and start a discussion about what's appropriate on the list. It's terribly self-referential and doesn't make for an enjoyable list. The rules of behaviour are very clear and no-one's got any excuse not to read them - and everyone can see people who aren't. None of you should be telling the list how to behave - that's my job and I know how to do it by now. Your job is to enjoy yourself and post things of value for the rest of us. Please don't post multiple posts with little content. Bundle up your thoughts for the day into one mail. I've said it before, in almost all circumstances, if anyone's posting more than two mails a day, you're getting something wrong, and everyone can see. Think before you post. CD-Rs - it's not as if this hasn't been hashed out a million times on the list before - we don't want the same old debate again please. If you have something new to say, you'd better have checked the archives first. Jeepster's position is clear, they turn a blind eye to taped Tigermilks, and don't want to have to take action against digital copies, so don't want to know about it on the list. The delay in reissuing Tigermilk was the band's decision as far as I know, not Jeepster's - see the online chat - so they have to accept the consequences. Tigermilk will be reissued next year. You may disagree with Jeepster's position but this discussion's a blind alley - they choose to draw a line between analogue and digital copies. No-one's *really* saying that someone who does a copy for a friend and doesn't earn cash doing it is a hardened criminal - this list is independent, so if you want to tell everyone you're pressing 100 copies a day and making 15 quid a copy you *can* but don't be surprised when Jeepster come your way. The possibility of mass-produced bootlegs was raised countless times 9 months ago - it was clear it was going to happen then and we talked to the band about it in the online chat. They didn't care so much - I think they do now just because disreputable people are making solid cash - it's not nice to see your creation turned into a hard earner to unscrupulous gits. Professional bootleggers are making money out of music they care nothing about right now - shame on you if there's anyone on the list who helped them do it, but it's really not a surprise to anyone. And if you're doing your own copies, just do it privately ok? Again, let's not discuss this all over again unless you have something startling and new to say. And let's not discuss discussing it. End of rant. Oh, whoever set up this mailing list as a recipient of the Technosphere online game stuff - a minority of people found the first mail mildly diverting, but it's not funny after 10. I'm blocking these mails to the list now after a lot of requests, but could you take the list off it now please? I don't want to be still stopping these mails in a year's time. And stop chewing that gum when I'm talking to you. And sorry to anyone who's waiting for email from me, as always, it's not forgotten, but tucked into my bodice for later. I'm dead busy but I promise not to forget anyone who's asked for anything, if you'll be patient. Some of you have sent me really nice emails too, with some fine suggestions for the list. Reid - I'm so sorry not to put those TWITBUS chords up on the WWW page, I'll try and do it before I leave. And it's Oon's birthday today. So, you lot, be good. It's quite late isn't it? Grr :) Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+