Like, I can totally hear him [Mick three times on the ceiling if you want me] going that:

me sound less dance and more brooding, dark-sounding, and oddly jangly at times (see: Dreams Never End) which Electronic Renaissance is not. Furthermore, there are like 3 synth parts on Electronic Renaissance! Which is awesome, but I don't think even New Order did that, at least not until their later days, if at all. If you listen carefully to the new remastered version of Electronic Renaissance you can hear a tinkly synth at certain intervals. Anyway, I guess there is a bit of New Order in the song, but I'd say more of a Technique-era sound. Movement and Power, Corruption & Lies are more guitar-based than Electronic Renaissance.

Yes, well, let me qualify my statements then. ER is strongly reminscent to me of "Procession" and it doesn't sound *exactly* like it...and no, it certainly doesn't sound like anything else from those early days but I'm not even sure why you brought *that* up...perhaps to make a nice segue into your essay on New Order?:) I'm just talking about the song "Procession" itself, nothing else, if it wasn't clear. And in the similarities I'm thinking more in the beat and the melody of the bass-lines and the general dominance of keyboards in both songs. I'm not sure what version you're thinking of, but the one I have on the second disc of _Substance 1987_ features some big-assed synths, very nice production and a backing female vocal. _Technique_ was a litle too electronically disco (lots of electronic percussion and special effects, etc.) I think to warrant comparison with ER (which is pretty simple by comparison esp. to something like "Round and Round" or even "Run" which has many guitar parts). Re: "tinkly synth" in remastered "Electronic Renaissance"...your point is...? NO did *tons* of layering, there is no way to argue that! They became very heavy on the multiple synth part even before _Technique_ I'd say. I mean, call me naive but the part right before the chorus on "Bizarre Love Triangle" with the big sweeping synth part could hardly be done with one hand alone...then a simpler synth part comes in during that. And then there was the synth-bass parts...and drum synths... Anyway Bri (and others), I never meant to come off as snooty like I knew New Order like nobody else did in comparing the songs...it was just my opinion that the two seemed similar. That's all. Just a passing thought that now has snowballed into almost a full-blown OT New Order thread. I think this is the first time I've actually posted to/read the list while listening to B&S...and the first time I've listened to _Tigermilk_ while reading it certainly! I hope I don't cause a tear in the space-time continuum... Someday we will die in our dreams, Xavier BXK bkim0@dept.english.upenn.edu | www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 It's what kind of hair you have on the inside that counts.--G.S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+