in the context of what he's saying, do all these fun things, because you can and because they're cool. but at the end he says "you know the world was made for men, but > not us" --at least that's what i thought he said in Tigermilk, but on > the
"Lesley Jo wrote: live one i heard last night, he said "AND not us". I always loved that ending. I prefer to read it not as Stuart speaking as a girl (which of course he does alot), but instead as Stuart's worldview as a bit different than that of a "man". "Man" here being different than simply "male" (which is having the proper genitalia), but "man" signifying the common Macho- business - boy -fully -competent-a t-all-things-manly type of social construction (social gender and genetic sexuality don't need to be identical). I think stuey and the b&s ethic are a pretty good expression of something different than the "world made for men". Don't ya think? .scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Hello sinisterines : I have been keeping lots of your messages in my Default mailbox in order not to forget some questions or threads risen in them,but then ,when I finally post something I keep on forgetting all the quotes I should keep in mind and just something totally 'unconnected' (or should it be 'disconnected'?) Autism,it is called. Just something about this topic of the day : and 'Not US'. My critical interpretation ? I must confess both ideas have come to me when listening to the song : I sometimes believed the world was not made for men like little Stu,that's it, men not drooling over the hottest of the hostest,Melinda,of course,( Louise : I normally needn't wearing any top too, Melinda can't,ho ho ho!) and not spending the whole of the weekly wage on Newcastle pints on Friday nights while telling dirty jokes.Other times, 'US' was closest to the meaning of 'women', and I don't know if I am in a feminist mood today, but that's my final conclusion about it. 'And not US' is said, but 'And not for US' , so we are not made for men, while the world is. It sounds like some embittered (with good reasons to be embittered,probably)spinster advising a young broken heart girl.Like Miss Havisham bringing up Estella before she was old enough to get her heart broken by anyone. But embittered and all, there is something really touching in that line , as well as in Miss Havisham's character.We descend from a world where nothing was left to women, no opportunities, no pleasures, no choices...Leslie Jo's signature is there to remind us those lovely repressed times Nothing else after my Modern Girl speech, eh? Promise to be 'lighter' next time Tu chica ye-ye Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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