Yes! and the redsox have same type metaphorical representation tho' i'd say that the cubs represent futility and the red sox either false hope or absurdity... I had a great discussion about the redsox and arsenal with Nick hornby after he did a reading... .... And i must urge everyone on the list to read everylittle word Mr. Amis has penned. He's brilliant... and funny. and that's not an oft-seen together combination... and the LLL, as a wordsmith I must recommend Marty's dad's The King's English. Kingsley takes apart the english language... and shudders at every mis-use :) pretty fun read as he states which expressions and word usages should be banned from the language... and thanks to everyone who wrote to encourage me to go see Arab Strap tonight. I will and if it's memorable i'll write up a bit of a evening...review I had some strangely seasoned tofu that's left a awkward taste in my mouth.. jb

the cubs represent a literary type metaphorical type absurdity. this is why they are so important to me. this was actually mentioned in a book by martin amis, "the information" it was nice to see someone else share my views. i like the cubs so much because when i was 6 years old, and innocent, the cubs were in last place, and i thought they were so cute, and cool, i loved andre dawson and rick suttcliffe, and i felt so bad for them that they always lost, and i thought the mets were so evil and stupid. so i started hard core rooting for the cubs, and then in '89 they won the division, and everyone thought it was becuase i liked them so much and wanted them to win so bad. so now i hold on to the cubs as a symbol of my lost youth and innocence. with every cubs victory my resistance toward becoming a jaded miserable bastard increases.

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