On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, A Nonnymouse wrote:

Fuck right off with this shit. Since when was this list a political lecture?

Through in a two line opinion by all means, but don't start spouting pages of condescending shite.

That's a flame and a pretty nasty one, directed at a list member, and I won't have it on my list. I've seen a thousands lists die this way, it brings everyone down, makes people nervous of posting, and leads to another 20 posts about who's the biggest arse on the list, which is very boring for the rest of us. Maybe Julien's explanation was a little, um, full and outside the scope of the original question, but I'd rather have someone French explaining a French word in a B&S song, because there had been some confusion, than this sort of reactionary knee-jerk. Consider this a warning, Nonny - flaming is the biggest sin on this list, considerally bigger than sending a party political broadcast (although please stop this too now! there are other political theory mailing lists out there you know...). I don't know any other way to say it than: be nice or be gone. Thanks David while I'm here for setting up the message boards on the Jeepster site for gig meet-ups and ticket swaps. Please could everyone who needs to sell/get tickets use his board for now rather than the list as it was getting a little swamped. And maybe we could have a few less mishearings :) We've got a stack of them on the WWW site from ages ago, so if anyone wants to update that page with the latest, ahem, B&S ones, if it still amuses, then grab the HTML off my page, add new ones from the list and send it back to me - you get your name in lights if you do. I just haven't time or the fingers to do this sort of compiling just now - I need a set of little elves with pointy ears and nice table manners. Brier's comments on WWW sites: for many people B&S DO represent the urge to go out and create things for yourself, and I'm really pleased every time I see someone from this who's done something creative on the WWW, rather than following the all-too-common tendency to patch together a scrapbook of other people's work. But you were a little too harsh on David: he's merely pointing out it exists already, there's a photo page which was set up by popular demand from *listees* for anyone who wants to send one and there's a lot there already. And more importantly there's a baby page, because there's nothing better than seeing a Sinisterine who's just posted something about literary criticism dribbling babyfood down her or his chin. And that more entries are of course welcome - just mail JPGs to me. It just seems a bit daft to have two pages, that's all. I'd really rather not have multiple spin-off Sinister WWW sites. People seem to have trouble enough finding the real one, where there's bags of information that people ask the list about instead of looking up. I can at least claim to keep the existing Sinister site reasonably up-to-date (when I'm not in bed), because it's got to be for my sake, and I'm scared of an ever-increasing number of disparate *Sinister* resources, with information about the list that might get out of date. But I think everyone here would be pleased to see new creative B&S sites with new content. No-one's trying to get all BBC about this (that's until I start charging for list membership. :) Oh gosh, and thanks everyone for stopping that UK/US thing: it reminds me of how special this list can be, every other list I'm on seems to be exploding with civil war just now. You're all good little things really and when I get better I'll buy you some sweets and take you to the park. Honey x P.S. I had some more cards, including a cracker from a lot of people in London having fun without me; thanks so much, my cheeks are all rosy. Finally thanks to Chris Leonard who's special recipe to make me well is to bombard me with filthy smut via email all day: he's telling me about his wee-wee just now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+