Sinister: It's gettin' funky round here!
Hello moi luvvers, Barney someone wrote: <<Subject: Sinister: Judy and her gang of homies>> Oh yuk. I'm not going to quote any more of this, or comment either. Curry and Chips, anyone? Then the normally quite sane Mick Mcmick wrote: <<There just aren't many people in bands from the UK who are of African descent.>> No, but there's loads of people in UK bands of West Indian descent, (which, Mick, is not in India, before you ask.) Or do they not count? <urrgh> sorry kids. I'm just in a bit of a huff. I've had it up to *here* with patronising casting directors today, then I come home to find you all talking complete (no offence) rubbishy ignorant bollocks. Anymore of this and I'll start saying 'this never happened in the old days'. And I'd be right. Heed the words of H!O!P!K!I!N!S!! (Not the ones about Pinteresque pauses, mind) This list is like a fairy bower weaved from finest gossemer, lovely and cosy to sit inside. And if you all start wiggling about in it you'll break it and fall right on your arses. Why has no-one else pointed out the fact that this lovely sweaty beast we call Rrrock n' Rrroll was not: 1) Handed down by God fully formed, 2) nor was it created by Sir Clifford of Richard on a slack Saturday afternoon, after Airwolf while waiting for the pools results to come in (same as 1. really I suppose) It is in fact a development of blues an' stuff, which some of you would call 'black music'. And Belle and Sebby, like it or not, would not exist without good old kick ass rock + soul. Well, maybe they would, but Stevie would be playing a Lute, or something. And Chris would legally be required to change his name to Gawain, whilst the girls would play crumhorns, and the Stuarts would take turns to Morris dance. Richard, in case you're wondering, would be replaced by a dribbling, one eyed dwarf called Snuffhammer, who drinks real ale, and re-enacts the black death every saturday afternoon, on wimbledon common. On his own. Observant readers among you will notice my self aggrandising subject line. Well, it's not, actually I was going to give you all a red hot tip (ouch!). 'It's Getting Funky Round Here' is an knee tremblingly great track that I've had boogying through my head for a couple of weeks now, and I thought I'd tell you all to go and find it. Except I can't remember who performed it. So I can't. It's on a rather tasty compilation called Stax o' soul (classy title), and the whole thing's pretty fantastic, so if that kind of thing floats your boat (or as the cool set are saying, 'butters your muffin'-thanks whoever that was:-) ) go seek and find. Actually, I think it should be compulsory listening for hipsters- anyone who can deny the presence of any element of S!O!U!L! in B&S should have their head examined. Or possibly kicked in. byebye seb 'It's getting funky round here! It's getting funky round here! It's getting funky....funky round here!' 'It's getting funky round here', by someone or other +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
seb was in a huff because of casting directors and took it all out on rock'n'roll, which is fine by me any day. We oppose all rock'n'roll, after all. Actually he didn't join in on the choruses of 'no more rock and roll for you', but that can be forgiven due to genevieve's rampant all but virtual fairy snogs. See, i'm jealous now. But hmmm, rock'n'roll, seems to me that Pop is in fact much more complex than what Seb makes out, because really, seems to me that the whole Blues thing in the USA was as a result of a black african meets white american collision. True, the white culture being the dominant one was being attacked by the Blues, and then later by roots black r'n'r, but what really made rock'n'roll fly, what really made Pop come about was the way Country and traditional white Folk music weaved their magical spells into the tapestry. And yes, I'm being neccessarily simple here because i have to do the housework in a minute. You can't say that Pop, or even Rock'n'Roll is traditionally, or 'originally' a Black or a White cultural form, because it's a result of collision and collusion. Besides which, at the point we have reached now, it's completely irrelevent, given that cross-fertilisation can be so transparent and difficult to spot in any obvious way. And thank goodness too. That's what's great about B&S to be honest, they blend so many disparate elements and make music that DOES sound like no-one else on earth. Mayve you youngsters have no idea how seldom that happens, maybe some oldstersz too, but hell, me, i figure i know only too well. I'm currently listening to the Josef K collection on Marina, and this is another case in point: although their inspirations are also clear, they sound like NO-ONE alive or dead. Truly inspirational. Keep the faith, the duke Sorry if this come out twice... it's NOT my fault!!! -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent@lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
It is in fact a development of blues an' stuff, which some of you would call 'black music'. And Belle and Sebby, like it or not, would not exist without good old kick ass rock + soul<
i don't remember anyone suggesting otherwise. the discussion was about the lack of black artists in the fave lists which everyone complained about. then some people, including me, started complaining about the state of modern black music in america. then others started pointing out that they loved black music and said absence did not in point of fact exist. then others started accusing others of being too politically correct, for reasons i cannot begin to fathom. since the poster above puts the term in scare quotes, 'black music' in my book anyhow is simply shorthand for music by black artists - music created by black people. sorry if anyone finds anything racist in that. i personally find it offensive when all black music of whatever genre is labelled r&b or (much worse) "urban". perhaps we should all stick to genre labels. or not. whichever. N __ "Go! you may call it madness, folly You shall not chase my gloom away! There's such a charm in melancholy I would not if I could be gay." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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