if I'm trying to be the joseph goebbels of this list ? well, can I think a bit before answering you ;) ? I'm glad you answered, really. the point is, there is a difference between an unmade bed and Tigermilk, isn't it ? if it's based on not understanding, than I expose my unmade bed (with nice and green blankets), I call it a master-piece and if you don't like, that's because you don't understand it. that's the easiest way. maybe the point is doing something so weird and meaningless, just to shock and get some attention. and call it art. maybe I don't understand an unmade bed, but I do understand that whatever people understand from it, is less valuable than Belle and Sebastian, for example. I know it's this conviction that made you writing that thesis about Goebbels and the nazi strategy. the context is very important of course, but there are ways to find quality in art independently of its context. the words "roten culture", referred not to the bed, but to all the system in art that mostly hides the good ones behind the socially beautiful ones. that's roten. greetings tiago +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+