But duke, don't be afraid of getting back to basics, what's wrong and right. MY pop can and will never include Stairway to bleedin' Heaven or Smoke on the Water. Let those who want to incorpaorate those moments find their own words for their macho, thoughtless unchallenging guff. Let them have rock, or whatever, if it makes them feel more manly. Because the joy of the self-making that pop allows is the ability to place yourself _against_ as well as (more than?) _for_. ---------------------- Stairway to Heaven and Smoke on the Water do not make me feel more *manly*, I just like them. I don't have a problem with this, indeed however I have a tendency not to like macho kinds of music, perhaps just have a different definition. I figure I'm just going to have a hard time bottling up all the types of music I like and calling it something - it's just not going to happen. Actually, that above stuff its just total toss, it's basically down to you don't like it and figure that you're right and others are wrong. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------