Hello again On the subject of being twee, or not, I think the problem is one of who's labelling who. Concepts such as romance and sensitivity have had their insides torn out by sentimentality, Ally McBeal and his'n'hers dressing gowns. I'm unable to say that someone is 'genuine', even if they're the most authentic person I've met, without the spectre of Bob Hoskins, the honest guv'nor, jumping into my head and making me feel uneasy about saying it. I think most honest emotions or qualites like these are undermined by the fact that too often they're pretended. So that makes twee a funny word, because from what I can gather it is defined to mean "sickly sentimental", but people use it as a mark of authenticity. Someone may label you twee as an insult, because you're rubbish at PE and you like rabbits, but you're quite proud of these things so you think, if these things are twee, then that's what I am and it'as okay. It's sort of like being called a queer, or a nigger I suppose. It depends on who's labelling who. Mind you, I don't think labels of any sort are a great idea. If you want to be known by a label, you may as well be a tin of beans. I think most people who like Belle and Sebastian know what they like about them, without calling it tweeness. I've met a few random people by wearing my B+S t-shirt, who've come up to me in the street and said not "Hey, you're twee! That's great", but just said "Hey! Belle and Sebastian!". That's all it takes really. I think if someone asked me if B+S were twee, I'd say they write sad, pretty songs with lots of words, but no, they're not twee. Sorry for being a little long-winded. It's funny how the list sometimes becomes all earnest and full of issues like it is now when most of the time it's full of random nonsense. If I was writing this last week it would be full of bums and titties and that incident with the goldfish and the "novelty" shorts. But never mind. I really fancy eating a sausage. Right now! Bye! Robin x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+