Sinister: So long and thanks for all the fish
Interesting one in this weeks NME. In an interview with Therapy?, Mark Beaumont (the bloke who reviewed If you're feeling sinister in NME) asks one of the members of Therapy? when the last time he punched someone for buying a Belle and Sebastian album was. The drummer bloke says one of his mates bought one recently and he was horrified, although the singer then points out that he quite likes Belle and Sebastian. Not a lot to it really, except that you begin to wonder exactly where a question like that popped up from if there isn't some sort of hidden agenda going down in Mark Beaumont's head. From his original review of "If you're feeling sinister" I got the impression he didn't like the idea of a band coming along and drowning out the memory of some of his favourite bands - which Belle and Sebastian are liable to do on account of them being infinitely better. A few months ago Steve Sutherland from the NME said something to the effect of "What is the point of Belle and Sebastian" , which I find a particularly stupid question from a bloke who's worked for the music press for nearly twenty years. I don't doubt he knows that the answer is that the point is that they're a bunch of musicians who want to make records that people will like - again, it's what's the motive for asking such a blatantly daft question. It just makes me wonder whether or not they're trying to force Belle and Sebastian to play the game and start doing interviews with them. It'd be a pity, cause Melody Maker seem to have treated B+S with much more respect, which I find annoying cause in my opinion it's a terrible paper - indie guitar weekly, Steve Lamacq's fanzine etc. Anyway, I'm currently reading "Hammer of the Gods" (the Led Zeppelin biography) which is the reason for the slightly cryptic title of this message - I've left 10CC songs well behind now for email titles. It's a cracking read, and if anyone in Scotland - or indeed Leamington Spa, has 3 quid spare then pop into Fopp and get a hold of it cause it's currently going well cheap. Is the Bernard Butler album worth buying then? cause I bought the last one, and it was the sort of thing that I thought I should like, but it turned out in the end that it was almost all shite. The two singles and a song called Disappointed were good though. Here's something I found evilly amusing the other day. I bumped into a friend of mine at Tolcross in Edinburgh last Saturday night and he was completely out of his brains staggering down the street from side to side, I've never seen him that rubbered before, cause he never used to drink all that much. So I'm asking him what he's been up to and he tells me that he's been out drinking with Arab Strap! Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Keith Watson wrote:
It'd be a pity, cause Melody Maker seem to have treated B+S with much more respect, which I find annoying cause in my opinion it's a terrible paper - indie guitar weekly, Steve Lamacq's fanzine etc.
Up until the back-end of last year I'd have completely disagreed. I buy music papers for two main purposes - reviews and release/tour news. The latter is handled well by both papers, but let's face it you'd bleeding well hope so. As to the former, the quality of reviews is based on two things - what get's reviewed (i.e. 'breadth' of music) and who reviews 'em. IMO the Melody Maker has always had a broader, more eclectic range of reviewed music. This is I'm sure in no small part due to the quality of writers. The likes of Price, Kulkarni, Parkes, Roberts etc. piss all over anything the NME has had for years. They're much better at using the English language to describe the music and their own responses to it, and they're reference points more accurate and frequently original.They're also openly at odds with the sort of thing that seems to piss you off - an unhealthy concentration on all things indie. Price and Kulkarni are constantly berating the readership for their lazy ass musical choices (cf. Price describing them as 'indie pond-life' in a TLC review). I guess my overall point is, yes, there's lots of shit in the MM. But at least there's something worth reading. Unfortunately the latter part of the above should, in keeping with my first sentence, have been in the past tense. These guys don't seem to write much anymore. I've stopped buying MM. So Keith, you're probably right. Cock it. regards, yerluvinuncleTurt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------
all this talk of music papers... made me think again of a long lost, shall i call him friend, i think i shall, although he was more the duchesses friend, at least he lived across the road, um, shall i get to the point? yes. jamie t conway, he wrote for the Melody Maker for a while, he wrote about B&S simply ages ago, told us all they were the prettiest poets in the land or something. And we agreed. Anyway, here's my point, and i know it's a long shot, but does anyone here maybe know where Jamie is now? i wrote him a while back at his parents old house and the maker and got no response, and i'd really like to get in touch with him, not least because he has a big pile of my old fanzines/magazines and a Fatima Mansions mini-LP and a GREAT live Go-Betweens tape. Sigh. I know it's a strange request but then i've met so many old friends through mailing lists (as well as making new ones!) i thought i'd give it a go. keep the faith kids. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent@lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Roberts now writes for Uncut, after having edited Icon for a while (it folded, sadly, after four issues). He also edited a book of journlaism / worship of various artists. his review of Debbie Harry's borderline gigs in 1989 / 1990 was a work of genius. espadrille ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------
oh, and i forgot to mention his band, catwalk: that's why he orignially left mm - nobody was doing pop the way he wanted it to be, so he decided to do it himself. never heard any of their records. saw the first, the damascus ep, cheap once, but stupidly didn't bother to buy it. wish i had. espadrille (again) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Keith Watson