Sinister: Multiple mails (again) and fascism
OK - veterans of the list (the ones who can remember the broccoli debate, say) will also remember this happening before. For some reason I can't fathom, a remote mailer goes bad and repeatedly throws back mails from the list TO the list, which bounce back to the remote mailer ad infinitum. Good plan. The tell-tale sign is multiple footers. Personal mail to/from the site wasn't affected last time. Words fail me as to the remote mail software that can be so stupid as to do this, if indeed my diagnosis is correct. If anyone has a clue about how this happens please mail me (once). The offending remote mailer was "webtv.net" (ho ho). What a surprise, not a Unix/sendmail location. Thanks to people who alerted me. I saw this late on last night, stamped on the heads of the subscribers from WebTV (who I am copying this too and must emphasise is highly unlikely to be their fault - it's their ISPs), and made mails from this location "taboo" on the list to stop the bouncy-bouncies. I can't tell which of the two WebTVers caused it so I'm afraid I've had to remove you both. Am happy to experiment privately with you for a limited period and in a controlled way that people on the list won't see - we can do this - mail me. But, to be honest, last time we didn't find a solution so, erm, if anyone else has any experience of this please let me know. Life is short, I still love you all, and sorry for the hassle. Two more things: STOP SENDING UNSUBSCRIBES/SUBSCRIBES TO THE LIST! Can I write this any bigger? Read my FAQ on the WWW pages. This is a B&S list. I hope you have all changed your middle names by now. Please keep a focus - sure talk about other bands but let's not go off in a spiral. Let's not have any more "Radiohead are crap/good" stuff - I mean, lord, I have strong opinions about this and if I can keep schtum so can you :) Just because it's not very entertaining. If you're going to post, please: 1. Either (a) talk vaguely about B&S, Murdoch's underpants, Glasgow or who we like to listen to; or (b) post something very very funny about your nose - funniness overrides the need for relevancy but you have to have a certificate in rib-tickling. Oh and swearing's good too. Tag, Susannah, Keith, Peter Miller and Chris Leonard have carte-blanche to post stuff about their hamsters because they make me giggle. They have earned their spurs. 2. Don't slag off people. I get angry at this. Be nice. Mailing lists often degenerate into mindless boring feuds. Stating strong opinions is fine, in fact a necessity, so don't think I want to make this the Magic Roundabout. 3. Don't quote a huge message and then say "Yeah". Take some time to use your editor. 432 are receiving it the other end so make it easy to read. 4. Remember who speaks for who. I speak for no-one but me - nothing to do with the record company or fanclub although they are chums. David also doesn't speak for the record company. Katrina sometimes does and sometimes doesn't. They are both doing a wonderful job so send them flowers every day please. 5. Don't tell me I'm a git. Remember the mailing list is run on borrowed resources from my employer, in my spare time. If it explodes into something too big it might have to go one day so that I keep my job. It needs a focus. Some of you will not agree with this and indeed hate me, but let's just watch and see. 6. Keep posting. Don't let me put you off. Do it now. Right that's me off your birthday presents list. I'm off to practice being Mr SweetnessAndLight again. Dina will now take over as Hit Man. Be afraid. HoneyGrump -- Smithers, release the hounds. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Either (a) talk vaguely about B&S, Murdoch's underpants, Glasgow
will the house of love do? sorry alastair>
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Honey wrote:
OK - veterans of the list (the ones who can remember the broccoli debate, say) will also remember this happening before. For some reason I can't fathom, a remote mailer goes bad and repeatedly throws back mails from the list TO the list, which bounce back to the remote mailer ad infinitum. Good plan. The tell-tale sign is multiple footers. Personal mail to/from the site wasn't affected last time.
Can't the mailing software add a header line such as "X-List: sinister" to all messages sent out from the list, and reject any incoming mail with that header (ie. bounced messages)? Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Abandabag: n. The suitcase that keeps going around and around | the luggage carousel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Rod Begbie wrote:
Can't the mailing software add a header line such as "X-List: sinister" to all messages sent out from the list, and reject any incoming mail with that header (ie. bounced messages)?
Not bad - I've put that in place because it's easy with this software. I think it might depend how the bounce works but we'll see. This copied to the list to let people know it's happening if anyone cares. If it all falls in a heap it's OK - messages will get sent to me for approval and I will approve them and remove the safety-net again. Thanks Rodipoos. Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
on 15 Jan 98, Honey wrote...
If you're going to post, please:
Tag, Susannah, Keith, Peter Miller and Chris Leonard have
carte-blanche to post stuff about their hamsters because they make me giggle. They have earned their spurs.
Hamsters? I can do hamsters. Some years back we (bunch of indie schmindie students) had a golden hamster by the name of Howard. Unlike most hamsters, the little thing hardly ever moved, and because of this non-escapist attitude we used to take him down the pub, just for a treat like, and sit him next to the beers, where he would stay contentedly all night long, washing himself and occasionally licking the table. Now there was a regular there, a thin boy with a pretty face who used to come and stroke him, and whisper sweet nothings. Very jealous I was of Howard, but a regular pub-goer he became in the hope that pretty boy would pet me, not my hamster. Twas not to be though, as Howard eventually went to the great exercise wheel in the sky, and the pretty boy? he is now to be found, still nurturing his rodent fetish, on cum.com. Hamster no. 2 chose to have babies not long after her purchase, but they mysteriously disappeared shortly after their birth. However, on closer inspection, we spotted amongst the peanuts a little baby hamster head, the exact shape and colour of a little round nut. Hamster no.3 was the Houdini of the rodent world and despite the latest that hamster technology had to offer, no cage could hold him and he escaped, never to be seen again, but probably went on to live a long healthy life surviving on student detritus; baked beans down the back of the sofa, that sort of thing. So there we are. Can't bring myself to possess any more hamsters as I never could get over that eye-popping out business that occurs when you hold them too tightly and they try to run away, but somehow I keep getting this vision of the same happening to Stuart Murdoch if you had anything even near approaching a firm grip. susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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