...from doing all the things in life you want to... To return to the question from Chris[?] about how he, being shy, can meet shy girls..well, I'm very shy when it comes to chatting people up. My ideal guy would be shy, and often if I see someone I fancy, they do turn out to be shy when we are finally encouraged to talk. The trouble is, even with some eye contact, I am still too shy to approach them and if they are shy as well then we are doomed to just glance/stare at eachother across the dancefloor for the whole night. I always say that I want people to come up to me. Unfortunately those that do approach me I do not fancy myself. The best method for a shy boy to talk to a potential partner or friend is to get one of your friends to go and get the person you like. It saves alot of time. Happened to me last night. The strange thing is that I can go up to someone I don't fancy without any problems, and being an actor, I can publically display myself on stage without problems either. Are there any other shy people on the list who feel the same way? How do you get together with people you fancy? IN IT FOR THE MONEY. There are two schools of thought about Belle & Sebastian and Jeepster that their shyness of the media is because they don't want to whore themselves to the detriment of their art OR that it is a ploy to attract listeners from a particular sector of the music buying public. If that is the case then they have succeeded. And well done to them. Personally I don't think that making money is bad. It is what you do with it that counts and how it affects you. If you use your money to improve your art or to help others then that is good. But if you waste your money and get greedy and let your music or art suffer because of that, then that is bad. Money in the right hands can do alot of good. So do not chastise a band or record company for striving to better themselves through making money. If Jeepster can make more money they can find and sign up more bands like (or totally different to) Belle & Sebastian. As long as the bands they sign make beautiful music and/or have something interesting to say then I think that is good. What do others think. Just a brief note: I was under the impression that it costs under a pound to actually press a CD, and even after publicity costs, artwork e.t.c a CD that is MASS PRODUCED and sold for £1.99 can make money. Certainly, with ALBUMS, the cost to make an album is considerably less than what they are sold for. VERY small record companies have to sell their albums at a higher cost because they have to pay for and do alot of the publicity themselves. Whether or not Jeepster can be seen as one such record company nowdays is another matter. I recently bought the 'Dog on Wheels' and 'This is Just a Modern Rock Song' EPs for £5 each in HMV. Why they cost this I do not know. That's all. Goodbye for now. //ROB xx http://www.angelfire.com/ga/yindiescene/index2.html -----Original Message----- From: Jim Schmidt To: sinister@Majordomo.net Sent: 20/05/99 17:09 Subject: Sinister: the new who revue i just wanted to say hello and thank you to everyone i met at bowlie...i just got back from my european vacation and apart from dodging bombs, it was highly enjoyable. > a very special thanks to pam berry for organizing the bus!!! you are truly the best. (sorry i missed your party, but i was a little too close to the bombing the night before)...christa (if you're still on the list)--sorry we didn't hook up in london--but i'll send you something special, you teenage fannie, as soon as i get back on west coast time...and pedraic--thanks for showing me how the irish drink...of course, i missed all the sinister socials cuz i was too busy shagging my chalet-mates...but the entire weekend was truly something special...the fascist security guards snatching professional cameras and recording equipment was a bit distressing but danger makes everything more fun, now doesn't it? > i was a bit disturbed to hear about the dublin show with stuart smashing his guitar (i just found out about it today)...but you know they played "the kids are allright" as their last song at bowlie, so maybe stuart thinks he's in the who now as they pretty much started that whole smashing guitar thing...and as for all this conversation about early demos, 10-hour sound checks, the re-release of 'tigermilk', etc., just keep in mind 'all virgos are mad'...and our favorite stuart m. is one of the cursed... > cheers everyone.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". 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