Sinister: please... don't butcher two languages
not your senorita wrote: Our German friends, however, chose to call their aeroplanes "MESSERSCHMITT" which means "Mister Smith". I rest my case.>>> i think that someone already pointed out that "das Messer" means "the knife" but i have to point out that i have never, ever heard anyone refer to "ein Flugzeug" (airplane : literally translated : flying thing) as anything but "Flugzeug." sorry to rain on the parade. it might be that i live in the south and the bavarians don't use that word, but when i lived in frankfurt i didn't hear that either. the closest thing to Messerschmitt that i can think of is Messerschnitt. which means "knife slice." ng _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
On 30 Sep 2000, at 10:35, n|ck g wrote:
not your senorita wrote:
Our German friends, however, chose to call their aeroplanes "MESSERSCHMITT" which means "Mister Smith". I rest my case.>>>
i think that someone already pointed out that "das Messer" means "the knife" but i have to point out that i have never, ever heard anyone refer to "ein Flugzeug" (airplane : literally translated : flying thing) as anything but "Flugzeug." sorry to rain on the parade...
the closest thing to Messerschmitt that i can think of is Messerschnitt. which means "knife slice."
Sorry to piss in your lemonade, but... The Messerschmitt Bf109e and Bf109g were very famous and very feared World War II planes, as was the Messerschmitt BF110. The BF110 appeared near the end of the war, and was used for dogfighting and bombing -- mainly bombing, because it was a high- altitude plane. The BF109e was Germany's premier dogfighter: extremely stable in the air, as well as highly manoeuverable, but it lacked speed compared to the Spitfire Mk series, and the P51 Mustang. But what it lacked in speed it more than made up for in firepower, packing machine guns and cannons, whereas its adversaries -- the Hurricane, the Spitfire, and the Mustang P51 only had machine guns. The Zero (Japanese -- I think Mitsubishi made it, but I'm not sure) is by far the most kickass WWII fighter. Except for the Messerschmitt ME62e which came at the very end of the war, which was a jet. It was used very little in combat, as Messerschmitt was unable to construct enough numbers in time to put it into wide use. That's probably what they are referring to when they call their planes Messerschmitts. Incidentally, Messerschmitt made planes in World War I, and some of their planes were also used during the Korean War. +!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+!+! "That's why I eat Cadbury Eggs! NOT EVEN SUGAR HAS MORE SUGAR!!" -- Lots42, Alt.Religion.Kibology Some people need to get a *real* e-mail program that treats attachments as attachments, not as something to open up and spread across a vast network like hippies on reefer rides. But that's a different thing all together." --Taylor Netscum http://home.earthlink.net/~rtoad I AIN'T NO HIPPY ON A REEFER RIDE +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Lorenson" <rtoad@earthlink.net> To: <sinister@missprint.org> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Sinister: please... don't butcher two languages
On 30 Sep 2000, at 10:35, n|ck g wrote:
Sorry to piss in your lemonade, but...
The Zero (Japanese -- I think Mitsubishi made
it, but I'm not sure) is by far the most kickass WWII fighter. Except for the Messerschmitt ME62e which came at the very end of the war, which was a jet. It was used very little in combat, as Messerschmitt was unable to construct enough numbers in time to put it into wide use. That's probably what they are referring to when they call their planes Messerschmitts.
well, i guess i'm also pissing in the lemonade... that was the 262. premier ace adolf galland was given command of a squadron and was extremely frustrated that the luftwaffe didn't use it properly. i think they were mainly used for bomber interceptions rather than going after the allied fighters. i'm a little foggy on it, but basically, the 262's potential was squandered. as was the case in many areas, the german command were idiots, hitler being the biggest one, when it came to strategic planning. after all, this is the guy that thought he could take out russia with one swift kick. the allies couldn't afford to lose hitler in an assasination (as far as winning the war once he'd started it goes), of which there were a few attempts by his own men, he was just too good at not knowing what the hell he was doing, thank god! i never, ever thought i'd be involved in a discussion of messerschmitts on this or any list. :) jay "i look like robert deniro, i drive a mitsubishi zero" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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