I'm sorry Stuart, but I'm finding it really difficult to get interested about this buiscuit debate. Can't you think of something more inspring to challenge us with, I can't,my mind is just blank with boerdom due to my job (I hope my boss doesn't catch me writing this). I'll just keep myself entertained with B&S tunes washing around my mind. I did a music business course just like that guy in B&S (sorry I can't remember his name), and look where it's got me, sitting in front of a computer from 8-4 m-f, hopelessly trying to sort out other peoples problems- Oh Well, I'd better stop before I begin to ramle on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on............................................... Bye for now. Huw If any body can give me some advise on how to get into the chat romm you'd make a special little boy very happy.