Sinister: Why video boots are illegal & other sorrid topix
Seems to me that the reasons bootlegging videos could be wrong are: 1. The band (or Jeepster probably) paid money to make them, and why should a business pay to make something, then have it distributed for free? Just like albums, that would be ridiculous. 2. The band makes their money back by getting paid by MTV & other stations for the right to play them. If everyone had them on bootleg, no one would need to watch MTV to get them, so MTV wouldn't buy them, so the band wouldn't get anything for them. 3. Videos are copyrighted (of course, just like a movie or TV show) and the law is the law. Might seem unfair to some, but this is a business as well as an art form. Oh well. On a happier note: I was wearing my Stow shirt (for the fifteenth time) and someone FINALLY commented on it; saying: "hey, you got that from the web site! My friend showed me that!" Finally a Close Encounter, even tho it was a boy (I was hoping it would be a girl -- why is it never a girl? Why am I girl-crazy in the first place? Hair lips breasts eyes -- I do love gurls gurls gurls...) The guy only knew B&S a little bit, but it was the first contact of that sort I've ever had. Americans are slowly waking up to the beauty, I guess. Anyone else having problems with Frank Yang's strange "Security Warning" posts? Is he Secret Police? Glad you like the puffy stickers, Queen Bee. Put them to a smutty use. I just KNEW the new ep would be orange. I swear I did! I almost proposed a contest to see who could guess what color it would be, and whether it would feature a boy or a girl. My guess was to be "Orange / Girl" altho I see I am wrong (that is a boy, isn't it)? But when I went to the Jeepster site yesterday and up popped the cover of Tigermilk with "Preorder the new B&S now" above it, my heart skipped half a beet [sic] as I thought that T'milk was finally released again. But new stuff is better. I can't wait. Why do people keep calling Honey a "mrs."? He's Paul, a boy, non? I've been here a while but am still rather confused re: gender. Patriarch or matriarch? Enquiring minds want to know. But regardless, please heed his/her/its wisdom-filled posts. Finally... what happened to the B&S tribute tape? I haven't forgotten and you haven't forgotten; let's forget together someday These days, I remain, Brier +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
ok, so this weekend a friend of mine mentioned this great idea he had about t-rex slogans on a t-shirt, I don't want to mention the whole idea for distrust of stolen thoughts but kerri (azraell) and I are going to do it - it involves loads of fun, seltzer, andsilk screening. oh and mall madness (batteries included... ;) )so the deal is we are in NoHo/Amherst area of Mass (Except when I am in NJ or NY) and we are going to make tres lovely shirts. If anyone wants to help us make them or wants one let me know. Once we get the whole thing worked out we can show pix. the thing is that we are going to silk screen them ourselves because its fun and I like it and so the more people involved the cheaper the overhead will be. if you aren't close and want make one or get one of ours let me know. this is arts and crafts people we aren't going to steal their images or anything - and its not for profit (that's just in there so I don't get mail from anyone or anything threatening me for arts and crafts). anyway, so the other thing about the shirts is that they will all be somehow related to one another - more on that later tho - even tho I have figured out how. (its the ginger hair I imagine). these can also be in lieu of list shirts or what have you. secondly, david or katrina, glen robertson told me where to write to him and I don't remember he and stuart M. saved me from a life of living in the streets of boston and having to call up ex's to save me from the cold. can either of you let me know where to send something he asked me to make for him? (no it doesn't involve Semtex or food... just a little footie action and plastic). -ms. teri, her mom thinks she's cute http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "I may sit in a bar where the cocktails are but I really don't feel like talking I ride around and let the darkness fall 'cause I've got a sense of perfection and nothing else makes sense at all." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Brier 'Rose' Random wrote:
1. The band (or Jeepster probably) paid money to make them, and why should a business pay to make something, then have it distributed for free? Just like albums, that would be ridiculous.
The films are usually promotional items, for distribution to places like MTV so people see the band and go and buy their product. The idea being that they make money out of record (or whatever) sales. On the other hand some bands make films because they're FUN. I saw the Lazy Line Painter Jane video the other week for the first time and it's hilarious! Whether B&S made their films for this reason or promotional reasons I don't know. Maybe D&K could tell us.
2. The band makes their money back by getting paid by MTV & other stations for the right to play them. If everyone had them on bootleg, no one would need to watch MTV to get them, so MTV wouldn't buy them, so the band wouldn't get anything for them.
See above. Not everyone CAN watch MTV. I'm not going to get to see this video, probably, unless someone lends me a tape of it, or I get told exactly when it's going to be on telly. I'm hardly out to defraud the band or record company just because I want to see a film of a band I love. If they did a load of promotional films for lots of songs and released them on video I daresay I'd buy it, now in that case they WOULD make money back from me.
3. Videos are copyrighted (of course, just like a movie or TV show) and the law is the law.
I believe songs are also copyrighted, so why overlook cassette tape recordings of stuff? Videocassettes are just like audio ones but bigger, they both store information by polarisation of the magnetic bits stuck to the plastic. You can't turn a blind eye to one and not the other. It's an interesting argument, I suspect that if you were to go exactly by the law then it would ALL be illegal, but if you're going to lend someone the video for 'Wicked' or do a tape of Tigermilk for someone, just don't shout about it to everyone and no-one's going to mind. On a lighter note, aren't the Stereophonics SHITE !? JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Brier Random wrote:
Anyone else having problems with Frank Yang's strange "Security Warning" posts? Is he Secret Police?
I'm actually a special agent working for Sebastian Bach from Skid Row. I'm scouting out music mailing lists to see what's hip and cool with the kids these days. You may be interested to know he's working on a new acoustic album, cheekily entitled "Belle & Sebastian Bach". The first single will be "18 and Life To Go, La La La". Watch for it, it'll be huge. Really, my stupid mail program at work automatically digitally signs each mail I send out. It's not as annoying the electronic tag they've embedded in my ear. I keep trying to explain to them that I'm not a migrating waterfowl, but they refuse to listen. I shall endeavour to turn off the digital sig from now on. -- Frank Yang Imperial Tobacco Ltd. "Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding 'you're causing a scene.'" In my CD player: Uncle Tupelo - March 16-20, 1992 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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