Lieber Sinister, So I gather from Fiona's post (which I just accidentally deleted) that 'twee fucker' is something of an oxymoron. I don't think the content of the list is pornographic a-tall, and I'm not suggesting that it should be more so, cos there's really no point in it unless you're vaguely flirting, and flirting indiscriminately is no good. Anything other than the mention of the exact perception or its objective correlative (to borrow a term from Eliot) is peripheral. I guess it can't be helped that people want to tell 3rd parties about their feelings - indulgence towards lovers and all that. And could it be that by some circuitous route that is the source of pornography? Which is why films like 'Boogie Nights' are funny and sad. Sometimes I wonder about the truth of these lines in a song by Love: "you know that I could be in love with almost everyone/I think people are the greatest fun". Striking beauty becomes more ordinary with familiarity, but then I hold my breath when people I've taken for granted catch the light. I'm glad that this is so cos I wouldn't want to be in awe of someone forever. My German instructor is very very pretty. She was sick most of last last week and when she came back, she seemed more human. I'm puzzled by what Stuart thinks it is to be twee (if such a thing exists; more often it seems that people are after an idea of something that's not real). It's like innocence: after you're aware that such a thing exists, it's gone. So it's not authentic, and the lack of authenticity seems to be what it means more than anything else. But what Stuart wrote seems like a rejection of his former self: I mean reducing it all to knitting in pubs. Why not say that once he was that fragile! Has anyone seen the Belle & Sebastian lyric/reference page? http://www.fineran.demon.co.uk/basrefs/ It's really great. The source of one of my favorite lyrics could be a Hal Hartley film: "A family's like a loaded gun ..." It's not an exact quote from the film; there's enough originality on all sides, to the credit of Hal Hartley, Stuart, and the person who noticed it. Yours, Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+