Sinister: life should be full of strangeness, like a rich painting
there seems to have been something of a dearth of messages lately. maybe everyone's out enjoying the sun, or actually doing interesting and exciting stuff. god, we can't have that...or maybe it's just that i'm checking my mail more regularly now that i've finished college (*forever!*) and have nothing else to do, rather than leaving it for two weeks and trying to get through two hundred in one go. so, are any other proud bus pass carriers somewhat perturbed by stuart's new car? is it just me who thinks that car drivers are intrinsically evil? maybe we should round up a gang of young hyndland thugs (this is irony) to scratch max's sides with coins. he does have leather seats mind...how morrissey. but i hope it doesn't mean we'll be subjected to a glut of chris rea/brian may type songs about being in love with a car, or indeed, 'cruisin' down the 'highway'. maybe the b+s movie could be a road movie, though. a kinda remake of vanishing point, set on the m8...how existential. i'd be willing to play either the dj or the nakey girlie on the motorbike... there was a guy called 'fatty' playing football for turkey tonight. i was hoping it might be the boy from the bash street kids...a bit unlikely, i guess ...cartoon characters rarely get the international recognition they deserve. i don't think he was even turkish anyway. message to all wages slaves (or indeed anyone who actually has to leave the house in the morning to do *anything*) - i spent today sitting in the sun, doing nothing. i intend to do the same tomorrow. i don't have any money to do anything else, true, but it's quite fun just now. enjoy work ian n ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Hello, Sinister. ian nicolson wrote:
so, are any other proud bus pass carriers somewhat perturbed by stuart's new car? ... but i hope it doesn't mean we'll be subjected to a glut of chris rea/brian may type songs about being in love with a car, or indeed, 'cruisin' down the 'highway'.
I was thinking more along the lines of "Spring Rain", or maybe a song about potholes (is that what you call them, too?), as he's mentioned them before. Owning a car in Scotland would be nice. Maybe Stuart wants to take a drive around Loch Lomond or even further north through all that beautiful dramatic scenery. One could probably make the same trip by bus, but it wouldn't be the same. One might need to be alone. Robin wrote: That interview with Stuart was interesting because it revealed a bit about how he thinks ... So it's nice to know that Stuart's critical of his songs. It's a good way to be. I just hope he doesn't listen to the ramblings of the slightly bonkers and frighteningly named Sinister List organisation. Nutters. Yeah ... I was wondering if Stuart just didn't care about B & S as much, if he was blinded by love, or ??? But what he said in the interview made me think that it might be better that he is decent than for him to insist that they just do his songs, etc. I just hope he writes all the songs he has in him. I don't think he gives enough credit to IYFS, though. If you've heard the version of Fly that's on Time of No Reply and compared it to the studio version, you must see that sometimes production just gets in the way. I love how the Model starts with the harpischord then the drums bringing all the other instruments in. It's funny how Stuart gets the lyrics wrong. Somebody mentioned chastity as a reason for chest/breasts, but I like to think of it as a girl who's skinny raw rebellious and so it's more appropriate to say chest. And the lines that Stevie sings seem like an inner voice of self-quotation. It's natural. The whole mood of confrontation mixed with fondness - it's so keen. (Let this be Stuart's kind of love song.) If only Stuart had read Katarina's email before he wrote the Chalet Lines, the part about the bus stop where she was told about it. I think the most evocative part in the song is the part that's not in the first person, especially "her face was just a smear on the pane". The song is just too weary and after-the-fact. People have suggested that denial or withdrawal may be a part of it, but it seems that only those who have had life experiences to support the themes in the song have enough to go on. There isn't enough tension to suggest that something is there behind what's not expressed. What exactly about rape is so horrible? (not that it isn't horrible, but isn't it possible that the reactions to it could be appropriated? what got me thinking about this is what Peter Miller wrote about Stuart as a Butlins chaletmaid - flippant but acceptable whereas with females it wouldn't be appropriate to talk about it that way. so there is an established pattern of reaction, at least for males vs. females, streetwise vs. traumatized, etc.) So I got to hear Eric J. Lawrence's show on KCRW (89.9 FM - LA area) and he played Baroque Plastique, a song from Stereolab's new album, and it has that chord progression (sounds like scales to me) sort of thing in it that Nick mentioned in There's Too Much Love and it's really cool - in both songs. I think this song could do without the strings. Overall, I like the sound of the new album a lot, but I wish they didn't make such an effort to have the album sound of a piece. Tigermilk isn't that way. I like odd angles and unforeseen connections. Yours, Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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