Sinister: Beyond the Sunrise, Darker Than Thou, and the Fall of Western Civilization
Hello Fellow Denizens of the Sinistraad! Greetings from the Land of Fruits and Nuts (CALIFORNIA), Let me tell you, one tends to fall asleep driving to New York from here. The European equivalent trying to drive to Velocity's house (Greece) from Croydon. Any-frickin-hoo, all this talk about Beyond the Sunrise brought up a gripe (here he goes again...jeez). Does anyone notice the pronounced finger squeak on the acoustic guitar part. It's all "Joseph was (squeak) traveling (squeak)...." Man, oh man, is that ever annoying! That guitar is crying out in a voice not unsimilar to Groundskeeper Willie (the Jar-Jar Binks of the Simpsons)"Grease me down, Woman!" Speaking of which.... Why is everything cheap (in America) described as Scottish? 1)scotch tape 2)Scottish Inns 3) MacFrugal's (i swear there is a chain store called that here) Lotsa subtle racism......... Here's more food for thought: Even as a youngster growing up in a small southern town...I noticed that people with Celtic Backgrounds were treated differently. Most of those slave owners we all love to hate are English in origin. The poor tenant farmers who worked their lands were generally Irish and Scottish. In the slow moving South, this attitude of Celts being poor white trash is slow to erode, and even persists today exploited on shows like Jerry Springer. Another fact: In New Orleans, the dirtiest, scummiest part of town was and still is called the Irish Quarter. In America: If you look white, you are white (i.e. anglo-saxon). Whatever white is.... Are french people not latin? Not in the US. Mexicans who are more than half Native American are considered more latin. Are Italian people Latin? Not in the US. Look at it like this.... There are people from India who are way darker that any African-Americans I grew up with. What about the micronesians? Aborigines? Giving you questions for all your Answers since 1975, The Pickle Prince _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
hello everyone! this is my first post. i have been given a "voice" on sinister so i can finally join in the fun! in response to jason's post: come to think of it, the English are almost single handedly responsible for totally fucking up cultures and people of all races. as are the french and portugese. its funny how they thought in those days they were doing their colonies a favour by making them more "civilized"....what did they know about being civilized...and i think its the most ironic thing in the world that the Brits complain about immigration, especially from their former colonies...like what the fuck do you expect? they messed these peoples' lifestyle in the first place because of imperialist greed. they would not have to suffer economically and politically if the british hadn't colonized them, stealing their wealth and overriding their culture, imposing their institutions upon them....ooooooooooo, i just get sooooooooo pissed off sometimes!!!!!! the world will never make any sense. ok, i just had to get that off my chest. yeah, so this had nothing whatsoever to do with belle and sebastian....well, maybe next time. karren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason McKinnon" <megatherion5@hotmail.com> To: <sinister@missprint.org> Sent: March 16, 2001 12:14 PM Subject: Sinister: Beyond the Sunrise, Darker Than Thou, and the Fall of Western Civilization
Hello Fellow Denizens of the Sinistraad!
Greetings from the Land of Fruits and Nuts (CALIFORNIA),
Let me tell you, one tends to fall asleep driving to New York from here. The European equivalent trying to drive to Velocity's house (Greece) from Croydon.
Any-frickin-hoo, all this talk about Beyond the Sunrise brought up a gripe (here he goes again...jeez). Does anyone notice the pronounced finger squeak on the acoustic guitar part. It's all "Joseph was (squeak) traveling (squeak)...."
Man, oh man, is that ever annoying!
That guitar is crying out in a voice not unsimilar to Groundskeeper Willie (the Jar-Jar Binks of the Simpsons)"Grease me down, Woman!"
Speaking of which....
Why is everything cheap (in America) described as Scottish?
1)scotch tape 2)Scottish Inns 3) MacFrugal's (i swear there is a chain store called that here)
Lotsa subtle racism.........
Here's more food for thought:
Even as a youngster growing up in a small southern town...I noticed that people with Celtic Backgrounds were treated differently. Most of those slave owners we all love to hate are English in origin. The poor tenant farmers who worked their lands were generally Irish and Scottish. In the slow moving South, this attitude of Celts being poor white trash is slow to erode, and even persists today exploited on shows like Jerry Springer.
Another fact:
In New Orleans, the dirtiest, scummiest part of town was and still is called the Irish Quarter.
In America:
If you look white, you are white (i.e. anglo-saxon). Whatever white is....
Are french people not latin?
Not in the US. Mexicans who are more than half Native American are considered more latin.
Are Italian people Latin?
Not in the US.
Look at it like this....
There are people from India who are way darker that any African-Americans I grew up with.
What about the micronesians? Aborigines?
Giving you questions for all your Answers since 1975,
The Pickle Prince
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Remember that post about the girl helping the bird that I made before? Of course you don't, but I have a follow up for you anyway... I was at the Maddona night my student union organised for comic relef (pure hell on wheels) because my friends were doing a 'vogue' dance to raise money. I was there till about 2, when it shut, and I bumped into on of the girls who had been helping the bird. She's cute, kind of shirt, with hippy type cloths, and short (can't have everything I suppose, maybe she'll grow it) pink hair. She came over to me (I think, I was a little tipsey, having been in the bar since 8 to support my friends) and I told her how great it was that she bothered to help the bird. I also told her that I was so touched I was moved to tell the story on this list. I asked if she liked Belle and Sebastian and she said yes... though possibly a little to passively. I chatted to her for about five minutes, and I think she liked me (though my judgement may have been a little impaired), then her bus started leaving. It was at that point I'm glad I was drunk, because otherwise I wouldn't have asked for her number. She said she didn't have her mobile and couldn't remember her number, she asked her friends, but they couldn't remember either. She told me her address is 56 Kilders Road (There is something quite sweet about that address), which I forgot till I went to wash my hands this morning, thinking she hadn't actually left me any way to contact her (hense wasn't really interested), and found it written on my hand. She also told me she'd be at the union on Monday at one, and she'd generally be about in Uni. I hope this works out... I'm pretty excited. "We make computers... but we don't know how to operate computers" - 17 year old Manila factory worker The Happy Reaper +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Jason McKinnon -
Karren Gill -
Peter Carter