1) Did you all read the bit at the end of my mail ? the bit that said it wasn't meant to offend anyone? I was just 'trying' to put forward the other side of the story, as it seems that so often only one viewpoint is put forward in the media. 2) Why do people assume that I am simply repeating stuff, as with the alphabet? Don't be so fucking anal. I DO have a mind of my own. I when I was a bit younger, I went throught all kinds of shit, and was beaten up daily, stuck in hospital ect.. Why? I have no fucking clue. They just did it to me. But I do know that I feel some kind of empathy with people who are gay, in as much as I know what it is like to be picked on unfairly, and suffer for somehow being different. I was lonely, and I spent a lot of time tghinking about my religion and life, and got to the root of what I believe., and how a lot of catholics do just repeat what they are told. My parents never forced views on me. I am NOT BIGOTED. You don't know how much some of the stuff people have said hurts me. some of the stuff people on the list have said. Hell, I even get called gay at school, just 'cause I don't fight, and 'cause I don't have a girlfriend. And people saying that i should do some research? fuck you. I know what goes on. I go to a catholic (but unofficially mixed religion and race) school in the southside of glasgow, in a working class area, and I have more experience in what those people say than you. And you say my arguments are shit? Well fine, if that's what you think, but holes can be picked in any argument, and It was one opf those mails where you just right what comes into your head there and then, and don';t think about how people will insult you for doing so. I could answer all of your jibes,and counter arguments, and I' will do so if you mail me privately. But If I don that, then you'll hust do it back, and It'll go on forever, because we all (I hope) have a strong belief in what we think. BUt just as I don't agree with what you believe, I respect your right to have an opinion (as long as it has justification). And that is one thing that I think is intrinsic in a christian way of life (not just being a christian, but living life that way) - respecting others opinions and beiliefs, and recognising that they are no less a person for disagreeing with you. I think that some people on this list have an attitude along the lines of "I know I'm right, so if you disagree then fuck you." and that is not a good attitude to have. I also tghink that it is cowardly of these people to pick on me publically just 'cause I don't agree with them. They should accept that I believe what I believe, and leave me alone. oh, and my teacher 'knows so much' about lesbian sex because a gay rights group mailed an eduational/information booklet to our school. so blame them. I actually think that it should be up to the parent whether or not their child should have sex education. And I don't think that a one parent family is any less of a family unit. and in the case of a gay male couple having a child, when the sperm from one of them is used, it is their child.,but not the other's. that could cause problems. And the whole thing about the paoedphile priests - just cause they are evil, doesn't mean that you can tag the entire church with the same stick. and besides (you'll all think this is soooo cliched) the church is the people who attend it and have their faith. the priests are messngers of this faith. the church is what the people make it. My thoughts are getting mixed up now. Becauser I have so much to say, and not enough time. biology test becons. I thought after the barrage of shit I recieved, I should leave the list. but hell. why should I? because some peole are narked at the fact that I don't share thier beliefs? no. I've taken enough 'bullying' in my life, and I can suree as hell take this. Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+