okay, since this has been brought up a bunch of times, here's the response from one of those times. it's from the archives. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD? Funkyseb@aol.com Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:04:40 EDT Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Rod Begbie: "Sinister: Business Proposal" Previous message: Gillian McKay: "Sinister: cover star" Maybe in reply to: bilner: "Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD?" Next in thread: david kitchen: "Re: Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD?" Right, I'm big and grown up now, I think it's my turn to answer this one. Look, Jeepster and the band are very sweet in turning a blind eye to the exchange of *tape* copies of Tigermilk, as long as it's not for profit. But, as we all know, it is illegal to bootleg albums, even if they are as life affirming as that album is. And the point is, a cd-r of the LP is a bit too professional, and bit too easily reproducable for Jeepster to ignore. So, to all newbies, please don't shout about making CD-Rs on the list, if you must do it, 'cause things get uncomfortable, and David + Katrina have to stop being lovely bunnies, and get serious. Which no-body wants. It's happened too many times before. It's going to come out again sooner or later, on CD, so please be patient, and put up with your scratchy old tape dub for a bit longer, like everyone else :-) God, that was a but sensible. seb (who's nearly finished that review. just a bit of polishing left, some nfinitives to stick back together, etc.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- apologies to funkyseb@aol.com for resending this message. i don't think he'll mind though. -matthew | | wouldn't it be better if you made a tape of yr record to send to someone | to make a CD-R? if you made a good tape, the sound quality lost wouldn't | be noticeable. someone made me one from a tape and it sounds great. | | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Comments from Jeepster would be most welcome. (BTW I'm told by a reliable source that Jeepster do not actually own the rights to Tigermilk.) The cat is out of the bag... Pick your cliche. It's time either to foil the bootleggers by reissuing the album, or else face up to the fact that an analog tape is no more difficult to mass-produce than a digital copy. The only difference is generation loss. The only other way besides a reissue that would foil the bootleggers would be to form a non-profit CD-R tree so that nobody has reason to buy one. That is copyright infringement as well, but at least it isn't profiteering. (I confess I'd be eligible to be at the top of that tree, but I have no intention of organizing such an effort. I would, however, lobby for a reissue.) I am not happy to hear about a for-profit bootleg, but that's the simple truth of the current situation. I raised the possibility a few weeks ago that someone would press a bootleg. If it so happens that the bootleg(s) is (are) of good quality, then it relieves only one of my concerns. As a composer with a disc out in a few weeks, I am very sensitive to copyright issues. The label sent out some promotional copies recently, and within two days I got word that someone had promised to MP3 the whole album and upload it to servers... To clarify one of my earlier comments: It is possible that the perceived value of _Tigermilk_ to the band, management, and label(s) is greater as a semi-legendary "lost record" with enough demand to be bootlegged, than as a reissued CD. I don't know this. I don't even particularly think it's true. But it is possible, and it is a strategy that might be effective. --Mark __ <http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome> <MPEG 3 & RealAudio tracks> October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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