Sinister: Just suppose I'm juxtaposed with you...
HELOOOOOOO SINISTERINES! You may notice that I have added "fruitloop" to my name on this e-mail account, to lessen the confusion between myself and Rachel O.J... I have found that if I lose track of reading all of the Sinister posts, that it takes DAYS to sort through them. But I won't let down anyone who is looking for my posts as "Cliff Notes" of sorts (as if anyone would be *waiting* for my post!) So, you know this post is going to be huge, but it covers a lot of things happening in the world of Sinister. You may even find your name mentioned in here! Sheesh, I feel like I'm writing a gossip column!! err, well... anyway, I've divided the comments loosely into topics to heighten your reading pleasure. ************************FAMILY/HOME WOES************************ Hold onto your hat, cunning Andre, I'm mentioning you AGAIN!!! I know what it's like to have annoying roomates. I live with 2 members of my bizarre family, my younger brother and sister (unusual in a different way than yours is!) My sister ROCKS, she is one of my best friends and is obsessed with Super Furry Animals. My brother is another story. It's so odd that since my brother ran off and got married, our household has been so peaceful without him. I never realized how much he took advantage until he left. Andre, I hope you can stick it out until you can move and keep your sanity! Caleb Ben has pissed off his roommate Ballad (Ballad? Shit, I'd probably call him "Livin' On A Prayer," that would really get him mad, of course I'd never know it, would I?!) Well, CB, AKA RAW... I don't envy you. These family/roommate situations get messy sometimes, don't they?! You aren't going to believe that I am about to link this to my bizarro family: Big Stu wrote of a concoction called WKD: "it may be in some way responsible for me feeling as rough as a badger's crotch this morning." I was highly amused by this quote, in fact, I almost put it in the section at the end with my favorite quotes. The reason I really like it, though, is because my paternal grandmother's nickname is "Badger". No lie. She even signs her e-mails to me "Love, Granny Badger" So I found it very amusing that Big Stu woke up feeling as rough as my granny's crotch! *******************MUSIC: TDC-RIP, SFA, B&S********************* There has been quite a bit of mourning on the list over the breakup of The Divine Comedy, mainly from PSI who wrote: "Before I go - good to see you are all paying tribute to TDC in some way or another." I will pay tribute by listening to "Something For The Weekend" which is my favorite Divine Comedy song. Actually, I might not, after what GEOFF had to say: "My hatred of The DC comes from their release of 'Something for the weekend' at the same time as SFA anthem 'Something 4 the weekend'. These records were distinguishable by far more than a numerical word..." OH CRIKIE, I am a dumb American valley girl and I didn't even *think* about the correlation! Super Furry Animals ROCK MY WORLD (thanks to my kid sister)!!! OK I'll pay tribute to the demise of the Divine Comedy by listening to SFA's "Something 4 The Weekend" instead! Anyone else out there still listening to SFA's new album 3 or 4 times a day? Ernie wrote:"And to think that they did �Don�t Fear the Reaper� by Blue Oyster Cult at the Olympia who but nobody has mentioned it! Attendees of shows, please provide us with more reviews if possible!" Yeah, I want to hear more about this, too! I am amazed at how many songs B&S have covered! I'd like to see a list of cover songs that they have played live... does one exist or can we compile one? James the Dancin'-Hatchback wrote about the new "Waking Up To Us":"I think after a few more listen's I'll really like it. Cay pointed out that they seem to be going in a very 60's direction lately and that sounds good to me." I haven't heard it yet, but I am so excited that it's apparently going in that '60's direction, because I REALLY loved "legal Man" for that reason! And Histrianic H wrote: "Yes, I have a new blue fender strat!!!" OHHHH That's grate! Do you name your instruments? I do. I named my car, too. My guitar is named Louise. My car is named Ziggy Stardust! OH, OH - Another "Car Christening" Kirsten Kenyon wrote: "mandee wright is completely rad because she can link oatmeal to the flight of the navigator and also because she just named my car "spacepet." Oatmeal? Flight of The Navigator? What?! Spacepet! A good name for a car! Welcome to Amy in Michigan! Amy wrote: "i'm curious if anyone out there has an mp3 of belle and sebastian doing "alone again or" live. i'm so enchanted with the idea of them doing that song and am dying inside to hear it." And then the PINEFOX (did I just write that? No! It's your imagination!) wrote: "If I had it I would send it to you. Not just a copy, but my copy. It would be a good thing to get rid of. The song is way overrated." AND THEN Amy wrote: "i'll take your invisible "alone again or" off of your hands any day. i love the simple whimsy of the song. sue me." AND THEN THE PINEFOX SUED AMY APPLECORE! Well, not yet. I'm waiting for the next installment!! *bites nails* ***********MIXTAPE BATTLE OF WILLS v. RACHELS v. CHRIS'*********** AMY APPLECORE, you really should consider becoming "Rachel Apple Jacks" I read what you wrote about making a mix tape and I liked what I read. And I LOVE "Alone Again or" and I think I'd LOVE IT EVEN MORE if I heard B&S play it. So if you get a copy of that, let me know! I want to tell ya, well, you don't have to BE a Rachel to be a Rachel, ya know! This is the last call for participants! We will begin at some point next week, so any of you out there who want to participate, please send me a note! I'm talkin' to you, PIDDLEMONKEY!! I think we can manage to come up with a breakfast related name for you as well... hmm... how about "Rachel Griddlemonkey"? Archel Toast wrote: "so, the mix tape battle commences! the rachels have far too much style and charm not to win. (plus we're all sleeping with the judge, obviously. see you later, ken.)" And then Will Spike said : "But we have better puns with our name. Through sheer Will power, we will prevail and prove once and for all where there is a Will, there is a way." You Wills may have better puns with your name, but we Rachels have better BUNS with our name! *wink, nudge* Johan wrote of joining the battle: "i would, but i won't, recusing myself out of geographical considerations. besides, i have a lovely girl called rachel in one of my classes, and no wills, and hence feel obliged to throw my lot in with them, vicariously - i've got grate aim!)" I have one thing to say about that: !VIVA RACHELS! David the Stankin' Cooter wrote: "WILLS VS RACHELS VS CHRISES MIXTAPE CHALLENGE MADNESS Um, I�d love to join in this one as an honorary somethingorother with a humorous nickname, but unfortunately I don�t have a tape deck. If any of you would like me on your team, though, please email me for my postal address. You can then post Ken Chu out to me directly, and I�ll play him some songs round at my place, making sure to swap the CDs over really quickly between songs. It�s the next best thing, I promise you." Ok, David, sounds like a deal! But if there is a pink necktie around the doorknob, come 'round in about an hour (or should we say 2 hours, Mr. "Red Bull" Chu? tee hee!) And for participating in such a proactive way, I think we should call you "Rachel Stankin' Doughnut". Marybeth wrote: "R is for Rachel A is for achel C is for chel H is for hel E is for el L is for l" I nearly lost it when I read that! It's ridiculously funny! Thanks for being our cheerleader, Marybeth! Paul Arathoon wrote: "All of this talk about rachels, wills etc makes me dizzy. It's very confusing." Don't worry Paul, the Rachels are about to erase the confusion by making the BEST MIXTAPE EVER! Jim Gilmer wrote:"I have to say, I don't think I want to be a Rachel or a Will. No, I'm quite happy staying a Jim, sometimes even a James, and very rarely a Jimmy or Jimmy G." How 'bout a Jamie? I love that name. It's sexy. Thanks for complimenting the mix cd you heard that I had made for dear Elise! Even though your vouch for my mixtape prowess doesn't seem to intimidate the Wills, that's ok. We know. *************THE GREAT NURSERY HEIST OF 2001*********************** Welcome to Helen from Brazil who is saw B&S 2 days in a row!!! Caleb Ben has been busy organizing his translation game with Helen and the gang! Welcome to Tina, who is just out of the nursery and posted her site link with lots of cool B&S pictures--including 2 of me and Dustin Smartly-dressed dancing onstage with them and looking like dorky demons! Whooo! Thanks Tina! I am so happy to have proof that it wasn't all a dream! Also welcome to Jason from Ottawa!! And hello to Erin from Seattle (but California by trade!)! And Alex in NY!!! And Hello Eric in NY! And Fabio and Maira in Brazil, who got to see B&S!!!! I want to know how you all managed to escape from the nursery without my dear sweetie Ryan!! Ryan, were you busy playing video games and missed your chance to climb over the little plastic gate? AND A HUGE WELCOME TO KENNETH P Y CHU! What a coincidence that you share the same name and same town of residence with the legendary listee, Ken Chu! I hope no Rachels wind up in the wrong Ken Chu's bed in the process of trying to swing the mixtape battle our way! ;) *****************LOVE, ROMANCE, & LACK THEREOF***************** JohnJohn wrote a lovely observation of two birds he saw: "but even the birds� love could be shattered; there�s always competition." But you could be the better pecker, so don't despair! And Lindsey wrote: "oops, i thought i loved you, but i was just kidding?" Whoa, that's so appropriate for some events in my life lately, too. What a joke, huh?! Linds, I know what it's like soul sistah! And Rachel O.J. had a birthday, but unfortunately had her heart broken Thursday when she found another girl in her boyfriend's bed (this sounds all too familiar to me. See my birthday at the end of last month!!) Rach wrote: "he said "i really did love you" did he HAVE to say that? as if it didn't hurt enough." Again, Rach, this is ringing SO true to me!!! Don't you just want to say you're a self-indugent prick, if you really did love me you would have been a man and told the truth in the first place instead of being a deceitful coward! Guys, we have so much more respect for you if you'll just be honest with us girls. You have to know that we're going to find out the truth eventually and the deceit hurts far worse than your actual "change of plans." Respecting us enough to be upfront and honest really does make a difference. Ulla wrote of her lost love: "i still felt that maybe i was doing something wrong and i became more and more silent. until there was nothing to say really." Oh boy, this is not good for your self-esteem! I have the problem of taking it all in like it was my fault, too, but you have to preserve your self-esteem and know that he was the coward and instead of being honest with you, he was just mean and wore you down, until he successfully pushed you away. You don't need a boy like this in your life. You're far too grate for that stupidity. ON A HAPPY NOTE, Laura Llew's gentleman caller, Mr. Breams wrote his tale of being in the presence of said goddess. awww! It's so cute! Caleb Ben AKA RAW wrote: "it's so nice to know that someone out there is thinking about you, smiling to themselves and writing down their heartbeats to send to you." YAY!!!!! That's so lovely! I think list crushes are so cute!!!! I'm developing a brand new one... It's a long story! Maybe I'll talk about crushes in my next post! *******WRITINGS: IN JOURNALS, IN ZINES, ON THE WALL**************** Stacey Dahling wrote 3 very lovely and detailed posts about her UK travels meeting up with Sinisterines and having revelations! Thanks for sharing, I felt like I was there with you. And I wish I could keep a journal as diligently as you can! Gordon, your post with over a week of your life yet to come was fab! You're so silly and I adore the way you let it show! Ken Chu fought in a war with a vending machine and lost. And I got scared because I really thought he got mugged by something human!! You're so clever!! Brier Random wrote the subject line "I'm going back to new york city, I do believe I've had enough" and then said in his P.S. "Thanks to the Beastie Boys for providing my subject line via Bob Dylan, who produced the text from whence was ripped." I was excited that I got that one, I dunno why! Not why I got it, that's because i listen to the Beastie Boys, but why I was so excited by it. Maybe I'm just excited that Brier is so clever! It was a perfect subject line for his post about going to NYC. I hope you have a grate trip! I hope you go to the huge Toys R Us in Times Square. I want to go. Rich. Gill. is reading books that have "Screw" in the title because he's a boy! ;) Mark Hester notified us: "Struan has been mentioned in PHYSICS WORLD, of all places!" He also mentioned a gig being ruined by shit djs and opening bands, which I have experienced as well. You said "Paul Haswell" and it reminded me of a girl I used to know from Florida who met a "Paul Haswell" on the internet and ran off with him and got married. So watch your list crushes, OK people! Someone posted that a listee had a hand in writing a review on the 2nd B&S show in L.A. in Mojo Magazine!! I'm going to look for that issue right away. And sorry I accidentally deleted that post before i could give credit to the 2 said people reporting... but thanks, that's so GRATE!!!! Idleberry wrote: "We�ve decided to make the cover a different colour for every issue. Its very simple. There�s no pictures on the front, or contents lists or anything. Just the name of the fanzine written across it diagonally." Brilliant, I think! I'd buy that zine and, furthermore I'd like to collect that zine not just because of the cover, but because it seems pretty cool. So, how would one go about doing that? Youn wrote a beautiful post about an old photograph and an alarm clock. Will Salt posted a grate description of the Dundee picnic last weekend, with full McGonagall-like verse! Well done, my man! Well done! I'm glad that you all had a wonderful time! ********************SOME OTHER STUFF****************************** I KNOW darn well that I shouldn't mention THE PINEFOX AGAIN (right Robster? Right Big Stu?) but The Pinefox wrote: "It's nothing like Bonnie Tyler" So I have to say that I was excited to read this because I have been known to wail "Turn around, Briigghhhhht eyes!" whilst walking through the supermarket with a very embarrassed best friend. It's not that she isn't a "fan" of Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse of the Heart" (well, actually she isn't) it's just that I don't care if people look at us when I sing along to the bad music piped in to my shopping experience! She does. Ken Chu wrote this, which is nearly enough to get him a crush vote: "I just thought I'd mention a fox made of pine, cos that somewhat rhymed." Of course the crush vote would be from the PF, not from me! Well, okay, maybe from me... Poor ill Astrid wrote: "i always watched macgyver when i was a kid, but my mum had to read the sublines for me, i hadn�t learnt to read by then." The thought of MacGyver with subtitles to me is hilarious! I used to watch the show, too. That's how I learned to make a bomb out of a stick of chewing gum, the wrapper and some coca-cola. I hope that info wasn't lost in the translation. Speaking of losing in the translation, the game that a handful of us are doing, translating b&s lyrics from language to language to see what we end up with is going to be really funny, I think! Kate is getting her hair cut, and wrote: "It will now be about shoulder length instead of to my belly button." Just be sure that you don't change your mind at the last second and put up a hand to block the scissors and end up cutting yourself again!!! :) *************Favorite Quotes From Recent Posts********************** Joe "Rachel Pancake" Vester wrote my most favorite statement of all: "you had to PAY to get into St. Paul's Cathederal. It's a CHURCH for CRISSAKE." Richard Gillanders wrote my second favorite statement: "perhaps I could catch a matin�e. less effort required than catching a manatee. I keep imagining." ****************************IN CLOSING************************ I want to say that it's exciting to have all of the new kids out of the nursery. I love reading about all of the interactons between you lot all over the world, and it makes me feel a lot less lonely. Shout outs to THE RACHELS (Rachael in Australia, are you in for the mixtape battle?) and to Beautiful Elsie and Sean, Juju Cat, Katie Cheeriodle, Kirsten Kenyon, Ernie, Danny Farrell, and of course, that special boy Ryan. Until next time... Love to all of you, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. 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Hello All...... Rachael Fruitloop's request for a list of covers has brought me out from the nether reaches of lurkerdom. You see, I never write you because you all seem to intimidate me so.....see, I'm clever, but I never know how to get it to my fingers (which is sadly necessary in situations such as these). Plus, I must surely be a lot older than the majority of you....and nothing good usually comes from listening to your elders. But maybe, for once, I can be useful to you. Anyway, in 2001, I'm aware of our very clever friends covering the following songs (or bits thereof) in concert: Sympathy For The Devil (Glasgow: 28 Feb) *a batch of songs at the Scottish Socialist Party...er, party (Glasgow: April?/May?) Sex Pistols, Pink Panther Theme and probably a few more that I can't remember) Smooth Operator...Sade (Dunoon: 9 June) Suspicious Minds...Elvis (Dunoon: 9 June) The Sun Has Got His Hat On (?)...Elvis Costello (Perth: 10 June) Time Of The Season...The Zombies (Dunfermline: 11 June and again several times since....It might have been done at the SSP party before the proper tour started though, but I can't remember for certain) I Fell In Love At First Sight...Chick Robertson, father of Neil Robertson (Aberdeen: 14 June) The Boy With The Thorn In His Side...The Smiths (Glasgow: 15 June + San Francisco: 8 Sept) Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?...Rod Stewart (Glasgow: 16 June) Letter From America...The Proclaimers (Glasgow: 16 June) Everyday People...Sly and The Family Stone (London: 29 June and again several times since) Je T'Aime...Serge Gainsbourg / Jane Birkin (Cardiff: 1 July) Come And Get It...Badfinger (Cardiff: 1 July) Jilted John...Jilted John (Ipswich: 5 July) Don't Stop Me Now...Queen (Ipswich: 5 July) Alone Again Or...Love (Los Angeles: 5 Sept) Creeque Alley...Mamas and Papas (Los Angeles: 6 Sept) The Leader Of The Pack...The Shangri-La's ?...I'm blanking here (San Francisco: 8 Sept) San Francisco (Wear A Flower In Your Hair)...Scott MacKenzie (San Francisco: 9 Sept) Billie Jean...Michael Jackson (San Francisco: 9 Sept) Turn Turn Turn...The Byrds (Portland: 11 Sept + Seattle: 14 Sept....also done in NYC 1998) a Left Banke song (Vancouver: 13 Sept) Crosstown Traffic...Jimi Hendrix (Seattle: 14 Sept) Don't Fear The Reaper...Blue Oyster Cult (Olympia: 15 June) Fool's Gold...The Stone Roses (Olympia: 15 June) Baby...Caetano Veloso / Os Mutantes (Brazil, both nights?) Minha Menina...Jorge Ben / Os Mutantes (Brazil, both nights?) They didn't do this sort of thing as regularly in the previous years, but I think these have all been done before: The Kids Are Alright...The Who (Bowlie 1999) It's Hard to be a Jew on Christmas...from South Park (Washington DC 98) More Than A Feeling...Boston (Boston 98) Poupee De Cire, Poupee De Son...France Gall (many times in 1998) Matchstick Men and Machstick Cats And Dogs...? (Manchester: 28 Dec 97) In A Nutshell...Orange Juice (Manchester: 28 Dec 97) What Goes On...Velvet Underground (NYC: 6 Sept 97) I'll Be Your Mirror...VU (NYC: 5 Sept 97) Reel Around The Fountain...The Smiths (Oxford 97 and another time more) Speak to you again sometime next year..... Shawn PS. I think it's nice to have one's name mentioned in posts, as it gives the impression that one is famous....Since few of you know me and wouldn't casually throw my name around (what good would it do?), I'm going to mention several people I know so that they may feel famous....though some of them surely don't need my help. Okay, I'm taking this time to namedrop a few Sinister folk who I appreciate a lot. I hereby declare that Sam Dymond (back from the dead!), Caleb Ben Moore (who I just met!), Vu Sleeper (who I nearly just met!), Ernie Sanchez (my link to the outside B&S world of traders), David Moore (how's the burning going?), Jim Gilmer (the nicest man in Michigan), Amy Bancroft (who's left us for some Sinister guy we think) are all lovely people and are deserving of high praise and hugs. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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